Let's be clear. There is nothing wrong with what Biden said. Even as misconstrued, it's accurate. I absolutely do not believe that stifling the truth is the right thing to do. I do not believe that will cost any significant votes that will not be more than made up as Republicans continue to expose their blatant hypocrisy. We've rolled over enough accepting their lies instead of making them back them up. If people can't see the clear distinction and we lose over this, I just don't care. We'll deserve to go to hell. We're never going to be worth a damn catering to abject stupidity.
I don't believe Trump has disavowed the comment yet, no?
Quite the opposite, in fact. He doubled down on it during his Hannity interview.
All good, man. I think we are probably talking past one another at this point. I don’t think your viewpoint is invalid or anything- I just don’t happen to agree with it. But I know that we want the exact same thing as it pertains to this election, and that’s good enough for me.
I understand what you mean, and anyone who thinks what I'm advocating is "rolling over accepting their lies" or "stifling the truth" hasn't read my posts on this board or the old board for very long. It is certainly appropriate and important for Democrats to constantly attack the hypocrisy of sniveling turds like Vance and the entire conservative media ecosystem, in this and every other instance. But if you think politics in this country has ever not involved "catering to abject stupidity" then I have some beachfront property in Missouri to sell you. Because everyone of age gets a vote, the reality is that a huge proportion of the electorate is made up of idiots and people who are woefully uniformed. There's no way to ignore them or their votes. So anyone who wants to win an election of any kind has to take a pragmatic approach to wooing stupid, uninformed voters. We can wish all we want for a magical world where elections are decided only by the merits and policies of the candidates, but that world doesn't exist. Not in this country, not in any country. And we have to win elections in this world, not a hypothetical one.
It’s ridiculous, the media needs to ignore more stuff like they ignore all of those rapes Trump committed.
Yeah, this not a bosides comparison despite media insinuations.
This ^. … and for those that have angst about Kamala not being ready/willing to voice how she would have presided differently than Biden, the ill made garbage comment is an opportunity. She has and can use this to demonstrate that she will communicate more effectively than the guy she has replaced on the ballot.
I was born in Truman's administration. I'm scarcely naive. It's that fact that helps me realize that always applying a general principle can easily lead to failure in specific cases. I think you're looking at two in a bush here and ignoring the thorns. You just don't give up important things for maybes.
One of the reasons that some people (like leftists) get fed up with trying to enact change within the existing political system is that throughout history, people will (mind-bogglingly) choose reactionary, repressive, autocratic governance over democracy and liberty, for a variety of reasons. I very much understand that frustration, even if I often very much disagree with their conclusions (i.e. that we just need to burn the whole thing down and start over).
Bullshit. it's already died down.
And this is why I, a near daily listener for many years, more or less stopped listening to them.