No. What contributed to Hillary’s loss was that, 1. she was Hillary Clinton, the sole focus of the entire right wing media machine’s obsessive rage for three decades prior, 2. her campaign tried to run out the clock, and didn’t even attempt to campaign in midwestern states, and 3. Trump was then an outsider.
First of all, I have a very low opinion of the electorate. Something like 80 million people are about to vote for Donald Trump. As I said: if you try to spend one minute inside the head of a low-propensity voter, or an "undecided" voter, you will go insane. You certainly will not find anything rational. Low-propensity voters are now heavily Trump leaning. Anything that risks turning out any of them who can barely muster the energy to vote is bad.
Understood. I guess I am foolish, then, because I don’t even think we’ll- and by ‘we’ I mean normal, non-brain-addled MAGAs- be talking about it 24 hours from now, because 1. all Harris and her campaign surrogates have to do is to give the exact answer she gave that I shared above, and 2. there was certainly be some other MAJOR BREAKING NEWSWORTHY!!! occurrence or utterance that will cause a whole fresh new wage of performative pearl clutching.
I still believe the more they focus on it, the more attention it will draw to their own hypocrisy. I really don't care about the voters we lose over this. I expect to gain more. If the truth be known, anybody who can be chased off by this remark in context of the campaign that has been waged by the victims can KMA and go somewhere else.
Trump's assassination lasted 48 hours. Who wants to wager that pivotal headline against the longevity of this "gaffe"?
Yeah see I just fundamentally disagree with that last sentence. Any voter "chased away" (or more likely chased to the polls to vote for Trump) at this stage by an unforced error is a problem. I'm not concerned with morals at this point. I'm solely concerned with winning the election. I will happily join in your sentiment that anyone "who can be chased off by this remark in context of the campaign that has been waged by the victims" is a fool and worthy of contempt, but a lost vote is a lost vote. I don't care about a damn thing other than winning right now. The goal is to turn out every single vote possible for Harris and not aid the Trump campaign in turning out a single vote for their candidate. We can do all the scorning of MAGA we want after the election.
Post the address.
I'll be wearing Tar Heel and Kamala regalia.
Trump: “Kamala Harris is a nasty, dumb, low IQ skank who blew her way to the top and has pimp handlers and she’s really not even Black. I also think that Hitler did good things, immigrants have dirty genes and are poisoning our country, liberals are human vermin and are the enemy within on whom I plan to sic the American military when I win. And no, I absolutely will not denounce the hateful Nazi rhetoric from my MSG rally the other night because there were many fine Nazis on both sides and besides I agree with them.”
Biden: “Trump supporters are garbage.”
Republicans:
You are basically making my point for me. The point is we didn't need to make a trade at all. Everyone in your first paragraph was already voting for Harris! Even if the "trade" is 10 million people in the first bucket and 100 in the second, it's still 100 votes that didn't need to be lost.
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I don't know what the right answer is, but the right time obviously isn't the week before the election. And I'm not convinced "being a shithead to the shitheads" is the way to "lance the MAGA boil" anyway, even though it would make all of us feel better.
I feel like if this was me, it'd definitely make me more likely to go vote.Pennsylvania Residents Peppered With False Texts Claiming They Already Voted
In the final weeks of the presidential campaign, swing state voters are getting hit with mysterious texts.
I take your contention to be that “this is a bad thing that could cost Harris the election” and my contention is “this is a dumb thing that ultimately won’t even be remembered a day from now, and isn’t going to be some impetus that prevents the Democrats from successfully closing what has already been a successful campaign, no matter how loudly MAGA Twitter screams and cries or how much Democratic Twitter hyperventilates with anxiety.”
Step away from the ledge, do some breathing exercises, and then return to this thread. Harping on Biden's comment is going to accomplish nothing. You've made your point. Some agree, and some disagree. But I think that most would agree that your concern over the comment has run its course.
To be more precise, my contention is that "this is a bad thing that reduces Harris's chances of winning the election, with no way to know by what amount."
I think I understand what you're intending but that statement is literally contradictory. By definition if Kamala was "never, ever, ever winning this election at any point in the first place" then we didn't lose it "because" of what Biden said.
