2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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CFordUNC said:
I’m just telling you. All of non-MAGA social media and non-right wing media sources have moved far past whatever non-candidate Joe Biden said on a Zoom interview.
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Wouldn't it be hilarious if Biden's garbage comment was a deliberate troll job that led Trump to waste half a day in the waning hours of the campaign riding around in a garbage truck?
 
hedge said:
Wouldn't it be hilarious if Biden's garbage comment was a deliberate troll job that led Trump to waste half a day in the waning hours of the campaign riding around in a garbage truck?
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I don’t think that was his intent, but it’s really hard to imagine anything that would have been more likely to cause Trump to face plant in the last four days of the campaign.
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CFordUNC said:
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Unfortunately that’s not a gaffe. Most people would be very hard pressed to pin down preferences between “Latino” and “Hispanic.” There’s a ton at play there, including geography, politics, nation of descent, class, assimilation, colorism… on and on.

There’s generally an east coast/west coast divide, just as trump referenced. But it doesn’t surprise me that a pro-trump NM crowd would prefer “Hispanic,” since for many it implies an association with Spain and that colonizing history, and a distancing from the indigenous origins — which is precisely why the term is rejected by the “Latino” crowd. It’s very very nuanced.

But if Harris had asked that at a rally in CA or AZ, the numbers very likely would’ve been flipped.

These concepts are at the heart of the issue of these populations not being monolithic, and needing distinct messaging based on a number of factors I’ve mentioned.
 
duluoz said:
Unfortunately that’s not a gaffe. Most people would be very hard pressed to pin down preferences between “Latino” and “Hispanic.” There’s a ton at play there, including geography, politics, nation of descent, class, assimilation, colorism… on and on.

There’s generally an east coast/west coast divide, just as trump referenced. But it doesn’t surprise me that a pro-trump NM crowd would prefer “Hispanic,” since for many it implies an association with Spain and that colonizing history, and a distancing from the indigenous origins — which is precisely why the term is rejected by the “Latino” crowd. It’s very very nuanced.

But if Harris had asked that at a rally in CA or AZ, the numbers very likely would’ve been flipped.

These concepts are at the heart of the issue of these populations not being monolithic, and needing distinct messaging based on a number of factors I’ve mentioned.
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I lived in NYC for a while and never once heard any non-white person refer to themselves as Hispanic. Not that it matters. For Trump to even know that is more than I would have thought.
 
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