2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

[nycfan]

https://www.axios.com/2024/10/26/trump-harris-campaign-schedules-swing-states

 

[ZenMode]

Eh, maybe all of that is true, but look at all of his rallies in literally all of the other places/states he's been going to recently. They have all of the energy, excitement, and attendance of the Dean Dome for a 9 PM November game against Gardner-Webb.

Attendees look more like hostages than supporters.

 

[nycfan]

Kamala Harris will spend all of Monday in Pennsylvania, whose 19 electoral votes offer the largest prize among the states expected to determine the Electoral College outcome. The vice president and Democratic nominee will visit working-class areas including Allentown and end with a late-night Philadelphia rally that includes Lady Gaga and Oprah Winfrey.


Donald Trump plans four rallies in three states, beginning in Raleigh, North Carolina and stopping twice in Pennsylvania with events in Reading and Pittsburgh. The Republican nominee and former president ends his campaign the way he ended the first two, with a late Monday night event in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

A Furious Last Day Push

“A presidential campaign that has careened through a felony trial, an incumbent president being pushed off the ticket and multiple assassination attempts comes down to a final push across a handful of states on the

politicalwire.com

 

[aGDevil2k]

Attendees look more like hostages than supporters.

Their souls and brains are captive

 

[finesse]

Their souls and brains are captive

Whatever of both that remain.

 

[rodoheel]

LOLOLOL I once saw a Raleigh Ice Caps game there, and it looked like about the same exact crowd size. Trump is losing North Carolina bigly!

Trump is going to get slaughtered in Mecklenburg, the Triangle, and Guilford/Forsyth. He will largely dominate rural NC, with the exception of Northeastern NC with large black populations. First step is we need urban turnout to be better than rural turnout. Beyond that, where I'd be looking for bellwethers for which way NC is likely to lean are New Hanover County (slight Dem margin last election, after going roughly 50/45 for Trump in 2016), Cumberland County (60/40 in Biden's favor last election, which was bluer than in 2016) and the red-leaning Charlotte suburbs (not sure how to measure precisely but probably somewhere around 60/40 in Trump's favor in 2020). If Kamala can maintain or grow margins in New Hanover and Cumberland, while winning over white women in those Charlotte suburbs, she's going to be in great shape. But if any of those counties trend redder than in 2020, it's a bad sign for Kamala.

 

[Zoo_View]

Kamala Harris will spend all of Monday in Pennsylvania, whose 19 electoral votes offer the largest prize among the states expected to determine the Electoral College outcome. The vice president and Democratic nominee will visit working-class areas including Allentown and end with a late-night Philadelphia rally that includes Lady Gaga and Oprah Winfrey.


Donald Trump plans four rallies in three states, beginning in Raleigh, North Carolina and stopping twice in Pennsylvania with events in Reading and Pittsburgh. The Republican nominee and former president ends his campaign the way he ended the first two, with a late Monday night event in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

A Furious Last Day Push

“A presidential campaign that has careened through a felony trial, an incumbent president being pushed off the ticket and multiple assassination attempts comes down to a final push across a handful of states on the

politicalwire.com

Trump is scheduled to speak in Grand Rapids at 10:30 pm. Good chance Trump arrives at the venue close to midnight.

 

[heelinhell]

Agree with you. She’s got a viable path forward if/when Trump loses this upcoming election, but she is understandably trying to shore up some support she may need in 2028 from the Trump base if she ends up head to head against Kamala in the 2028 General.

She will not garner support from the MAGAs
Kemp will not garner support from the MAGAs

Tucker Carlson would garner support from the MAGAs
J.D. Vance would garner support from the MAGAs
Maybe Josh Hawley ?
Maybe Charlie Kirk ?
Maybe Kristi Noem ?

 

[CFordUNC]

In my case I just realized that I am not changing anyone's mind and I just can't afford to lose most of my extended family.

That rant sounds like a rant from someone who is young and doesn't yet understand these things.

Yeah, I’m mostly with you, although I do think that the author of that Twitter thread made some valid points. I’m certainly not going to throw away my extended family or friends who vote for Trump, but I also won’t really ever have respect or consideration for their politics, either, moving forward. More of a “love the sinner, hate the sin” mantra.

To be very clear, though, I’m not extending an olive branch to anyone who voted for Trump in 2024. It’s incumbent upon them to attempt to re-integrate themselves into polite society; it is not incumbent upon any of the rest of us to do so for them. We did not have policy or ideological differences in this election. We had differences in basic fucking humanity and human decency. Every single person who voted for Donald Trump crossed that rubicon and should be held responsible for their choices.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

That's similar to what I posted recently - these people live to troll liberals and so they love it when Trump "sticks it" to the libs in any way possible. And while anger and fear and bigotry are no doubt part of the mix, underneath that is pure resentment. How dare legal immigrants who don't look like us or talk like us or who don't believe the things we do think they can move to my town and get jobs? How dare white liberals look down on me in my dying small town while they've got a high-paying job and big house in a big city! And on and on. Just pure, embittered resentment. And seeing how upset Dear Leader makes these people (TDS!) makes them so happy.

 

[aGDevil2k]

Trump is going to get slaughtered in Mecklenburg, the Triangle, and Guilford/Forsyth. He will largely dominate rural NC, with the exception of Northeastern NC with large black populations. First step is we need urban turnout to be better than rural turnout. Beyond that, where I'd be looking for bellwethers for which way NC is likely to lean are New Hanover County (slight Dem margin last election, after going roughly 50/45 for Trump in 2016), Cumberland County (60/40 in Biden's favor last election, which was bluer than in 2016) and the red-leaning Charlotte suburbs (not sure how to measure precisely but probably somewhere around 60/40 in Trump's favor in 2020). If Kamala can maintain or grow margins in New Hanover and Cumberland, while winning over white women in those Charlotte suburbs, she's going to be in great shape. But if any of those counties trend redder than in 2020, it's a bad sign for Kamala.

Cabarrus is one to watch. It's the next county in the state to turn blue IMO.
Will be interested to see Alamance too - it's changing with the explosion of growth in Mebane and Elon areas starting to change the deep red northern and southern parts.

 

[rodoheel]

Trump is scheduled to speak in Grand Rapids at 10:30 pm. Good chance Trump arrives at the venue close to midnight.

I was just driving from Winston-Salem back to Greensboro and they had all of the westbound lanes of I40 shut down on the west side of Greensboro (near the airport) with a bunch of police, highway patrol, etc rolling through at intervals. I assume it was cleared for someone's motorcade but can't figure out whose. Trump's only NC stop today is Raleigh so no reason he should have been near the Greensboro airport. Kamala isn't here today. Walz was in Gastonia/Charlotte yesterday but don't think he was going anywhere else in NC today. Not sure where Vance is; maybe him? Just not sure would be either be going to the Greensboro airport - or maybe somewhere further west of Greensboro (Winston? Asheville?) - that would have merited a miles-long complete clearing of 40.

 

[rodoheel]

Cabarrus is one to watch. It's the next county in the state to turn blue IMO.
Will be interested to see Alamance too - it's changing with the explosion of growth in Mebane and Elon areas starting to change the deep red northern and southern parts.

Cabarrus is definitely one of the key suburban Charlotte counties. Didn't think about Alamance but you may be right. Trump got just 53% there in 2020.

 

[dukeofhoops]

Cabarrus is one to watch. It's the next county in the state to turn blue IMO.
Will be interested to see Alamance too - it's changing with the explosion of growth in Mebane and Elon areas starting to change the deep red northern and southern parts.

It's a long shot but will be interested to see what happens in Union right next to Mecklenburg. Maybe it becomes more purple as I see more Harris signs than I've seen in the past for Dem candidates.

 

[rodoheel]

As is Ron DeSantis’s, as is JD Vance’s.

Too early to say on Vance IMO. He still has the backing of the Thiel/Musk crypto/tech types (really their only prominent toadie now that Blake Masters crashed and burned). Whether Trump wins or loses, I think you can expect them to push him hard as the Republican candidate in 2028, unless and until someone else they think they can control emerges. And they have a loooooooot of money and influence, and a means to wield it over the young online men who are now central to GOP political strategy.

 

[hedge]

Trump is going to get slaughtered in Mecklenburg, the Triangle, and Guilford/Forsyth. He will largely dominate rural NC, with the exception of Northeastern NC with large black populations.

I'm confident Wilson County will go for Kamala...

 

[aGDevil2k]

It's a long shot but will be interested to see what happens in Union right next to Mecklenburg. Maybe it becomes more purple as I see more Harris signs than I've seen in the past for Dem candidates.

Yeah if Union starts to not be as red, that's gotta be a massive warning shot to the GOP

 

[Zoo_View]

I was just driving from Winston-Salem back to Greensboro and they had all of the westbound lanes of I40 shut down on the west side of Greensboro (near the airport) with a bunch of police, highway patrol, etc rolling through at intervals. I assume it was cleared for someone's motorcade but can't figure out whose. Trump's only NC stop today is Raleigh so no reason he should have been near the Greensboro airport. Kamala isn't here today. Walz was in Gastonia/Charlotte yesterday but don't think he was going anywhere else in NC today. Not sure where Vance is; maybe him? Just not sure would be either be going to the Greensboro airport - or maybe somewhere further west of Greensboro (Winston? Asheville?) - that would have merited a miles-long complete clearing of 40.

The First Lady

She was in the Triad this morning, IIRC.

Headed for Carrboro/Durham in the afternoon.

 

[Zoo_View]

Too early to say on Vance IMO. He still has the backing of the Thiel/Musk crypto/tech types (really their only prominent toadie now that Blake Masters crashed and burned). Whether Trump wins or loses, I think you can expect them to push him hard as the Republican candidate in 2028, unless and until someone else they think they can control emerges. And they have a loooooooot of money and influence, and a means to wield it over the young online men who are now central to GOP political strategy.

Vance is such a limp noodle, he’s going to be a bigger waste of $$$$$ in terms of a presidential campaign than Ron DeSantis.

 

[rodoheel]

It's a long shot but will be interested to see what happens in Union right next to Mecklenburg. Maybe it becomes more purple as I see more Harris signs than I've seen in the past for Dem candidates.

Yeah Union, Gaston, and Cabarrus are the three Charlotte-adjacent counties to watch IMO. About 295k votes cast there in 2016, 365k votes cast there in 2020, and could conceivably exceed 450k there this year. If Kamala can improve Biden's performance by 5%+ in all three (35% in Gaston, 44% in Cabarrus, 37% in Union) that could be something like 25k+ additional votes in places where Trump desperately needs to offset the Dem urban majorities. He can't offset what will probably be something like a 700k+ deficit in the Triangle, Triad, and Mecklenburg with rural counties alone.