2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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Zoo_View said:
Considering you recently admitted to not knowing what Agenda 47 is, apparently you pay no attention to what one side says.
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Right. Prior to visiting Trump's site to read about Agenda 47, not once have I EVER visited that site and probably never will again. Why would I when I have absolutely no plans to vote for him? Despite your hyperbole/gas lighting, that doesn't mean I pay "no" attention to what one side says or pay no attention to what either side says. I read political news or listen to political podcasts every single day.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
I don't think there's been a time in American history in which a presidential candidate so clearly and desperately and openly wants a departed candidate to return to the race because, as he openly states, he thinks he can beat that candidate, with the obvious implication that he's not confident at all of beating his current opponent. It's simply pathetic in a way.
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You clearly forgot when Jimmy Carter loudly complained he was not able to run against Nixon.

It was a national embarrassment
 
heelinhell said:
AZ certified yesterday

www.huffpost.com

Arizona Will Put Abortion Rights On The Ballot

Voters in Arizona will get to decide in November whether to add the right to an abortion up to about 24 weeks to the state constitution.
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Arizona voters will get to decide in November whether to add the right to an abortion to the state constitution.

The Arizona secretary of state’s office said Monday that it had certified 577,971 signatures — far above the required number that the coalition supporting the ballot measure had to submit in order to put the question before voters.

The coalition, Arizona for Abortion Access, said it is the most signatures validated for a citizens initiative in state history.

The issue already is set to go before voters this year in Colorado, Florida, Maryland, Nevada, New York and South Dakota.
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Great news that AZ put that on the ballot. Not only for the cause, but it's a huge move on the electoral chess board.

These kinds of moves are why I've been saying for months and months (and recently on the polling thread) that this is why I wouldn't have bet on even Biden losing, much less Harris now.

Since Roe was overturned, reproductive rights voters were always the key to this election, and they're an under-counted and under-polled giant. Look at KS, OH, KY for proof, having turned out heavily and voted strongly against further abortion restrictions since Dobbs in 2022.
 
This is behind the Bulwark's paywall so I'll only post a short snippet, but this I found fascinating to consider.

"It’s generally under-appreciated that the SCOTUS decision on presidential immunity radically altered Trump’s psychology. Pre-ruling, Trump was running to stay out of jail. He had one guilty verdict in hand, another sure-to-be-guilty on the horizon, and two wildcard cases.

The SCOTUS ruling made it clear that Trump is never going to jail. And Trump understands this.

Whatever the opposite of “burning the boats” is, that’s what happened for Trump when the Supreme Court created presidential immunity for him. Suddenly winning the presidency went from being an existential need to a mere luxury. So whatever Trump had to put up with from Wiles and LaCivita in order to win is no longer necessary. He can do whatever he wants. If he wins, great. But if he loses, that’s fine, too. He can talk about how the mean black lady cheated and his followers will absolutely be there for it. The Republican party isn’t going anywhere, either: It’ll still be his property."

www.thebulwark.com

How Long Until Trump Fires His Campaign Managers?

Chris and Susie best be sleeping with one eye open.
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CFordUNC said:
Woof, between plummeting crime rates, a booming economy, lowering prices, and now illegal border crossings dropping like a rock, it’s a bad damn time to be a right winger. Thoughts and prayers to all of our right wing friends. We shall overcome!

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That would be true except for the fact that the rubes never hear about all of this genuinely good news. All they hear and see on TV is the hellscape we live in here across the US presented to them by FauxNews.
 
duluoz said:
Great news that AZ put that on the ballot. Not only for the cause, but it's a huge move on the electoral chess board.

These kinds of moves are why I've been saying for months and months (and recently on the polling thread) that this is why I wouldn't have bet on even Biden losing, much less Harris now.

Since Roe was overturned, reproductive rights voters were always the key to this election, and they're an under-counted and under-polled giant. Look at KS, OH, KY for proof, having turned out heavily and voted strongly against further abortion restrictions since Dobbs in 2022.
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Biden was in a death spiral. This wouldn’t have saved him. Let’s hope Trump’s in a comparable spiral now, though.
 
Zoo_View said:
I’ve grown tired of saying, “Customer Service Rep” 15-20 times to the phone when calling a bank, credit card company, medical insurance, etc.
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I agree with you completely. But if given a choice between (a) talking to someone who I know is just going to pass me along to someone else and (b) going to the relevant website and doing what I want without being bounced around the telephone system a dozen times because the person I'm talking to has no idea how to do what I want and no interest in finding our what I want, I will take a website everytime.

When ordering takeout, if the restaurant doesn't have an online ordering system, I get the takeout somewhere that does. Order on-line, pay on-line, walk in and find the on-line to-go shelve, and walk out. That's what I consider to be A+ customer service.
 
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