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2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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evrheel said:
The saying isn't The exception proves the rule" It is The exception proofs the rule"
As in it tests the rule
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No it's not, the saying is "the exception that proves the rule". But the saying is often misused in everyday speech.

What is being referenced is a situation where a rule book (or procedural or law or whatever) doesn't mention a specific topic, but only mentions an exception to that topic.

For instance, if a building has a sign that says "No food or drink in the computer lab" and there are no other signs regarding food or drinks, then you can deduce that food or drinks are acceptable everywhere else in the building. The sign (stating the specific rule) forbidding food or drink in one part of the building would only exist as an exception to the unstated rule regarding the rest of the building, that food or drinks are ok.

In this case, the exception (the "no food or drink in the computer lab" sign) is the very proof of that the alternative is true for all other circumstances (food & drinks are acceptable elsewhere).
 
05C40 said:
It always gets me that Republicans in NC say the Democrats in the past were just as bad as Republicans are now. And, in a way, the Republicans are correct. But the "Democrats in the past" literally are the Repbulicans now. The difference is that in the past Republcans just weren't a factor in NC legislative races. The Democrats did engage in Gerrymandering. But it was Conservative Democrats gerrymandering Moderate Democrats to preserve conservative dominance of the legislature.

Exactly the same thing as is happening now. And when I say "Moderate" that's what I mean. There has never been a significant elected "Liberal" presence in any part of NC government. The fact that BSC conservatives used have a "(D)" after their names and now have "(R)" after it really isn't the smoking gun that conservatives seem to think it is.
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This is spot on. I’ve said this many times in the past on the old ZZLP. Today’s Pubs are the same as Jim Crow southernDemocrats. They began migrating to the GOP after the Civil Rights Act and continued throughout the 70s/80s.
 
Trump requested two Filet-O-Fish sandwiches with cheese from McDonald’s, stadium hotdogs, Domino’s pizza and Diet Coke, Mayers said. Trump has previously requested McDonald’s while visiting Alabama, state GOP officials said.
 
Who does "only I can fix it" work on? Anytime I hear someone say something like that, I trust them less than if they told me that they weren't sure if they could fix it.

It always reminds me of Spicoli from Fast Times at Ridgemont High

 
altmin said:
I had to put the polling thread on ignore. I am tired of feeling hopeless and that thread just makes me like there basically is no point in life.
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It is a tedious thread. Every time I check it out there are like six more pages of polls that contradict each other and then people fretting about it. I don't have it on ignore but I don't read it carefully nor attach much meaning to it.
 
farce© said:
It is a tedious thread. Every time I check it out there are like six more pages of polls that contradict each other and then people fretting about it. I don't have it on ignore but I don't read it carefully nor attach much meaning to it.
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I can't handle the 5 pt swings in 2 days for NC
 
aGDevil2k said:
Agreed. I do wonder if republicans get nervous like that?
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Well, they sure seem to. They were the ones calling 2016 the Flight 93 election. They are the ones whose platform is "the world will end if a moderate Democrat is again elected president."
 
Kingpin said:
This is spot on. I’ve said this many times in the past on the old ZZLP. Today’s Pubs are the same as Jim Crow southernDemocrats. They began migrating to the GOP after the Civil Rights Act and continued throughout the 70s/80s.
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Jesse Helms is a great example of this migration to reference for North Carolinians. He was a Democrat until switching party allegiance to Republican in 1970.
 
4thgenheel said:
yeah, its always hilarious when pubs try to argue that the dems gerrymander just as much/badly.

not even in the same galaxy.
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altmin said:
I had to put the polling thread on ignore. I am tired of feeling hopeless and that thread just makes me like there basically is no point in life.
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The thread does not forecast doom for Harris but I can see how it makes people nervous.
 
aGDevil2k said:
Agreed. I do wonder if republicans get nervous like that? It feels democrats are the eternal pessimists when it comes to elections though. I mean it's so pervasive that Michelle Obama talked about it in her speech
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I don't think Democrats were like that until 2016. The 2000 election angered them, but 2016 traumatized Democrats and shook them as no election in my lifetime. The notion that 63 million Americans could possibly have reasoned that Donald Freaking Trump was in any way qualified to be POTUS wrecked whatever faith they had developed in American democracy after Obama's two election wins. I remember reading message board posts during the campaign and while many posters were not exactly enthusiastic about Hillary and thought the election might be close, relatively few thought that Trump would actually win. The fact that Trump nearly won in 2020 and got 11 million more votes than he did four years earlier just made them even more pessimistic. And so here we are. And yes, I also fear that Dear Leader will - against all reason and logic and decency - win the Oval Office yet again.
 
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Mulberry Heel said:
I don't think Democrats were like that until 2016. The 2000 election angered them, but 2016 traumatized Democrats and shook them as no election in my lifetime. The notion that 63 million Americans could possibly have reasoned that Donald Freaking Trump was in any way qualified to be POTUS wrecked whatever faith they had developed in American democracy after Obama's two election wins. I remember reading message board posts during the campaign and while many posters were not exactly enthusiastic about Hillary and thought the election might be close, relatively few thought that Trump would actually win. The fact that Trump nearly won in 2020 and got 11 million more votes than he did four years earlier just made them even more pessimistic. And so here we are. And yes, I also fear that Dear Leader will once again - against all reason and logic and decency - win the Oval Office yet again.
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This captures my thoughts and feelings 100%.
 
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