2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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HeelYeah2012 said:
That’s a ridiculous position to hold, and it cheapens any subsequent insult you could hurl if you truly believe that no one can support Trump by acting in good faith. Not really worth me responding beyond that.
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You could attempt to show me the errors of my ways.

You consistently express the belief that your life will be better under President Trump but you offer absolutely no substantive justifications for that belief. If your opinions were actually based in reality you could perhaps justify them by explaining how President Trump's policies would improve the lives of your family and your fellow Americans.

You've recently been very vocal about the cost of groceries. Please explain President Trump's policies to deal with inflation and food prices, and how they will address these issues.

Demonstrate good faith, rather than blind faith.
 
altmin said:
"tampontim" is trending on twitter. well I wouldn't say trending - has been selected by elon's minions to appear as trending. I am guessing that is some weird attack they are trying.
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Who were these people in middle/high school? You can’t do tampon jokes when the top of your ticket had people wearing tampons on their ears!

And fake bots won’t hit the same…these guys are all weirdos.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
God forbid you be subjected to differing, good faith points of view on an internet message board!!
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HY12, serious/in earnest question: after all Trump has done, after all he's been convicted of, after the insults and cruelty and election denialism and inciting an insurrection on January 6th, what is it that still attracts you to voting for him? He's not a good person. Like, he's objectively one of the worst people alive today. What specific policies or agenda items could it possibly be?
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
That’s a ridiculous position to hold, and it cheapens any subsequent insult you could hurl if you truly believe that no one can support Trump by acting in good faith. Not really worth me responding beyond that.
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It’s not an indefensible position.

Let’s say the economy is your biggest issue. By and large, those who study these things are pretty well convinced that Trump’s proposed plans to hike up massive tariffs on all foreign imports and to conduct massive roundups and deportations of undocumented immigrants would have dire economic consequences. So it seems silly to vote for Trump based on economic policy positions.

Speaking of immigration, given that Congressional action is needed in order for any long-term improvements to the system—and given that Trump torpedoed bipartisan legislation that would’ve gone a long way to fixing a system that’s been broken for decades—it seems silly to vote for Trump if border security is your main issue.

I’m assuming that both of these issues (the economy and immigration) are among the top reasons why you believe that Trump would be better for America than Harris. And yet, cursory analysis indicates that Trump would be demonstrably worse.

So you either haven’t thought through the implications of Trump’s policy goals, or you’re being disingenuous about what drives you to vote for Trump.
 
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fuheel said:
I don’t even know what to say to this. Trump can’t answer a simple question without veering off into a dozen random tangents and then won’t answer the original prompt. Trump just lies and then changes the subject.
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Agreed. The Trumper insistence that Dear Leader is in much better shape mentally than Biden is a joke. The only difference is that Trump shouts and yells and blusters and his supporters mistake that for mental vigor. But if you actually listen to him talk he rambles, often incoherently, stumbles and mumbles over words, forgets names and other things, and on and on. His mind is mush and has been for a long, long time.
 
lawtig02 said:
We still have a long way to go. Not taking anything for granted. But is anyone else surprised at how the Pubs have been caught absolutely flat-footed by the developments of the last couple of weeks? They’re acting like a football team that turned a few first half turnovers into a 21 point halftime lead, but gave it all up in the third quarter and seem to have nothing left in the tank at the start of the fourth quarter. I can’t remember the last time there was such an enormous momentum differential between the parties this late in an election cycle.
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I would say it’s like a football defense that prepares for the starting qb, only to have the 3rd string qb run and throw for 7 tds and 500 yards.

I’ll be in the corner kicking the dog now
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
That’s a ridiculous position to hold, and it cheapens any subsequent insult you could hurl if you truly believe that no one can support Trump by acting in good faith. Not really worth me responding beyond that.
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Its true.

He’s a felon who use the office to try to enrich himself, sees power and threw a hissy fit that ended up and an attack on our capitol when he lost.

He’s now trying to use the office to avoid punishment for crimes they committed before during and after he was in office.

He also has no real policies and is not a conservative.
 
thebruinbleedstarheelblue said:
Its true.

He’s a felon who use the office to try to enrich himself, sees power and threw a hissy fit that ended up and an attack on our capitol when he lost.

He’s now trying to use the office to avoid punishment for crimes they committed before during and after he was in office.

He also has no real policies and is not a conservative.
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Well, like most of MAGA, any facts and logical refutations just harden their beliefs. They don't call MAGA a cult for nothin'. And he'd deny he's MAGA, but at this point, your vote either resists MAGA or enables it. It's like a badly thinning hairline - just own it, dude. You ain't fooling anybody.

HY2012 has invested a lot of time, thought, conversation, and emotional capital over the course of years into Trump apologetics. Not everyone can admit they're wrong.
 
CFordUNC said:
To further clarify this, my stance is that for the people who vote for Donald Trump because, for whatever reasoning they tell themselves that his presidency would be better for them or their family than a Harris presidency, while I vehemently disagree with that, I certainly respect their right to cast that vote for whatever reason suits them. Those aren’t the people I have a problem with. The people whom I have a problem with are the ones who relish the cruelty that MAGA politics inflict upon innocent people.
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I have a bigger problem with the “wink-and-nod” Trump voters than the crazed MAGAts.

The “wink-and-nod” voters (see HY2012) know better. They’re willing to vote Trump for (1) tax cuts; (2) no tax increase; (3) right-wing judicial nominations - people who will gut the government (eff the FDA, EPA, CDC, NOAA, NIH, etc.); (4) don’t give a rat’s ass about NATO; (5) what this group cares about aside from their taxes is limited.

So long as their taxes are cut or don’t go up, Trump is fine.
 
CFordUNC said:
Yep, it’s because Walz signed a bill providing tampons in public school girls’ restrooms. If the GOP is trying to shed the “what the fuck is the matter with you, you weird fucking freaks?” label, they aren’t trying very hard.
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I am literally gobsmacked that it hasn’t yet occurred to these buffoons that LITERALLY 50% of the voting public are currently having or at one time had periods.

They really are trying to lose this aren’t they?
 
Zoo_View said:
I have a bigger problem with the “wink-and-nod” Trump voters than the crazed MAGAts.

The “wink-and-nod” voters (see HY2012) know better. They’re willing to vote Trump for (1) tax cuts; (2) no tax increase; (3) right-wing judicial nominations - people who will gut the government (eff the FDA, EPA, CDC, NOAA, NIH, etc.); (4) don’t give a rat’s ass about NATO; (5) what this group cares about aside from their taxes is limited.

So long as their taxes are cut or don’t go up, Trump is fine.
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This x1000. At least the MAGA’s put theirs on display…red hats and all.
 
Zoo_View said:
I have a bigger problem with the “wink-and-nod” Trump voters than the crazed MAGAts.

The “wink-and-nod” voters (see HY2012) know better. They’re willing to vote Trump for (1) tax cuts; (2) no tax increase; (3) right-wing judicial nominations - people who will gut the government (eff the FDA, EPA, CDC, NOAA, NIH, etc.); (4) don’t give a rat’s ass about NATO; (5) what this group cares about aside from their taxes is limited.

So long as their taxes are cut or don’t go up, Trump is fine.
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Yep, a weird marriage of rich folks and racists and bigots.
 
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