After Trump

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rodoheel said:
I think it's very difficult to answer this question with anything other than pure speculation because it really depends on what role Trump is going to play after the end of this term. Here, as I see it, are the major options:

1. Trump dies during or soon after his term. All-out free-for-all on the right to fight over who will inherit his legacy and leadership of the party. At the very least, the techno-right (probably led by Vance, with Thiel and maybe Musk again doing the backing), the Trump family (probably led by Don Jr. and Lara), the populist/dirtbag right (mostly media figures like Carlson, Bannon, Charlie Kirk, Bongino, etc, along with people like MTG and Stephen Miller), and the more traditional/big-business Republicans who bent the knee to Trump to stay involved (people like Thune, Rubio, Graham, Bessent, Tom Cotton, etc) will be involved in jockeying for power and position. No clue how that would turn out.

2. Trump leaves office and basically checks out of politics with not a care in the world for what happens to the party and movement. Probably similar to option #1 above in the effect. But personally I think this is the most unlikely option.

3. Trump leaves office and makes clear that he still intends to be the leader and face of the MAGA movement and the Republican Party, and offers constant commentary on who is good, who is bad, and who should be the next president and other leaders. All the people from #1 above are engaged in a furious contest to try to maintain Trump's favor and attention; whoever prevails are the de facto party leaders and basically a Trump puppet, until he tires of them and pushes others forward.

4. Trump leaves office and essentially designates a successor to carry on his legacy. Highly likely that person then becomes the new standard-bearer in the short term, unless and until Trump dies.

5. Trump leaves office and continues what is basically a full-time barnstorming tour of attention where he wants the spotlight still on him, while being somewhat apathetic to the fate pf the Republican Party and national politics, and even openly criticizes the Republicans for being not as good as him. Big wild-card scenario, as the party has to decide whether to split from him entirely or try to maintain the favor and attention of his base.

6. Trump doesn't really want to leave office and tries to invent some way he can stay in office. He drags the whole right into an open constitutional crisis along with him. A wide range of outcomes, probably mostly bad for everyone in the country.
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If he's still alive - #6.
 
Kingpin said:
Are you mixing up Rubio with Ted Cruz, who everyone hates?
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Nah, pretty much the same person. Trump emasculated both, and they both pulled down their drawers for more, so… he’s fuckin’ ‘em both. And they’re loving it.
 
heelinhell said:
Is own party hates him ? How so ?
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Barely broke 11% support in the 2016 Republican primary races, against easily the worst presidential candidate in US history. Also, I live in South Florida, and everyone down here who is not a card-carrying MAGA cultist knows he’s a soft little dweeb who decided to bear down and cling onto Trump’s coattails instead of standing up for himself after Trump completely emasculated him back in 2016. Basically, he “opted in” to a contract extension as “the People’s Cuck.” Poor little jellyfish.
 
Ramrouser said:
No problem beating the Marxist Dems will nominate - State Run Grocery Stores For All! Globalize the Intifada!

I mean, you guys have a 19% favorability rating.
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the dems with 19% favorability are doing everything they can to fight against the "marxist" in question. precious few non-Republicans are criticizing the Dems from the right, lmao
 
Ramrouser said:
No problem beating the Marxist Dems will nominate - State Run Grocery Stores For All! Globalize the Intifada!

I mean, you guys have a 19% favorability rating.
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Hahahaha that’s the exact kind of moronic drivel you’d expect from someone stupid enough to think that Adolf freaking Hitler was left wing.

I don’t think even the Marxist Dems will have any trouble beating the Child Fucker Pubs. Trump ain’t gonna be on the ballot anymore- maybe will have already shuffled off of this mortal coil, if we’re lucky- but the entire party bent over and assumed the position for him for 10 years. You’ll lose the low-propensity Trump voters, you’ll lose a bunch of the Latino support you gained in 2024 since you’ve been trying to throw them all into alligator prisons, you’ll lose a bunch of independents who will be repulsed that your party protected and enabled a known child fucker, and you’ll lose a whole bunch of old people who will either be dead or FUBAR becaude you took their Medicaid. Time to pay the piper! Dems need only to run someone with fair skin, a Y chromosome, and a birthdate not before the 1970’s.

As much as I can’t stand him, got to give Trump a ton of credit. He knew *exactly* how to capture and hold hostage an entire party, put it in a vice grip and clip their nuts off, and then did the same to an entire political system for a decade. Nobody has ever done that before and nobody will be able to do it again on either side. The problem is gonna be, though, that when the bill comes due for the party he took over, it’s not going to be Trump left holding the bag. It’s going to be all of the Republicans who don’t have his charisma, his style, and his ability to connect with the base. Trumpism without Trump isn’t going to be pretty for the GOP.
 
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CFordUNC said:
Hahahaha that’s the exact kind of moronic drivel you’d expect from someone stupid enough to think that Adolf freaking Hitler was left wing.

I don’t think even the Marxist Dems will have any trouble beating the Child Fucker Pubs. Trump ain’t gonna be on the ballot anymore- maybe will have already shuffled off of this mortal coil, if we’re lucky- but the entire party bent over and assumed the position for him for 10 years. You’ll lose the low-propensity Trump voters, you’ll lose a bunch of the Latino support you gained in 2024 since you’ve been trying to throw them all into alligator prisons, you’ll lose a bunch of independents who will be repulsed that your party protected and enabled a known child fucker, and you’ll lose a whole bunch of old people who will either be dead or FUBAR becaude you took their Medicaid. Time to pay the piper! Dems need only to run someone with fair skin, a Y chromosome, and a birthdate not before the 1970’s.

As much as I can’t stand him, got to give Trump a ton of credit. He knew *exactly* how to capture and hold hostage an entire party, put it in a vice grip and clip their nuts off, and then did the same to an entire political system for a decade. Nobody has ever done that before and nobody will be able to do it again on either side. The problem is gonna be, though, that when the bill comes due for the party he took over, it’s not going to be Trump left holding the bag. It’s going to be all of the Republicans who don’t have his charisma, his style, and his ability to connect with the base. Trumpism without Trump isn’t going to be pretty for the GOP.
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Yep

Trump wasn't on the ballot in 2018 and there was a "blue wave" with Dems gaining 40 seats in the House despite Trump having Made America Great Again and establishing the greatest economy in the history of all mankind.

Unfortunately for GQPers, Obamacare was on the ballot and voters were scared that GQPers would continue efforts take away affordable health care.

If memory serves, Dems focused on protecting health care, tax cuts for the rich, and efforts to improve gun safety.

I think Dems should run the 2018 playbook . A "strong" economy didn't help GQPers in 2018 and I doubt the economy will be of much help in 2026
 
"After Trump" will be less than a year from now. His physical decline is obvious and progressing rapidly. After all the crowing about Biden, Joe will be sitting front row when they bury Donald.
 
As I said in my here be dragons thread, there is zero possibility of predicting the future of America right now. I am certain that the billionaires and corporate powers, along with people like Murdoch, would prefer Vance in the presidency to continue on the path they want.
 
CFordUNC said:
As much as I can’t stand him, got to give Trump a ton of credit. He knew *exactly* how to capture and hold hostage an entire party, put it in a vice grip and clip their nuts off, and then did the same to an entire political system for a decade. Nobody has ever done that before and nobody will be able to do it again on either side. The problem is gonna be, though, that when the bill comes due for the party he took over, it’s not going to be Trump left holding the bag. It’s going to be all of the Republicans who don’t have his charisma, his style, and his ability to connect with the base. Trumpism without Trump isn’t going to be pretty for the GOP.
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I don't think he's that smart. I think he stumbled into it. He was his same old brash, overbearing, racist, homophobic, xenophobic, misogynistic self. Pubs bought into it because deep down, that's who they are... and he just ran with it.
 
an0maly said:
As I said in my here be dragons thread, there is zero possibility of predicting the future of America right now. I am certain that the billionaires and corporate powers, along with people like Murdoch, would prefer Vance in the presidency to continue on the path they want.
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True because JD has proven that he will cave for the money.
 
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