Approval/Disapproval Polls

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nycfan said:

Did Canada just change how we think of Trump’s 2024 election?​

Perhaps Trump’s win wasn’t about Trump at all

🎁 —> https://wapo.st/40PZoCa

Really interesting article seeking some connection for a similar trend in national elections in NYC, Toronto and London of a growing share of non-white voters to more conservative candidates.

TL;dr, the key shared data point seemed to be where these non-white voters get their news and the folks who get their news online rather than on TV tend to have a diet of more cultural issues.
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Can’t get past paywall.
I’m guessing it’s all about mores baked into the various cultures regarding sexuality, gender norms, subservience, male dominance, religious beliefs, handmaidens and the like. You know, old school, biblical ideas about how women should know their place and the women who are ok with that.
Also the woke gender stuff the left has trumpeted, not that there is anything wrong with that on its surface… not to me anyway. But I can see where non-white voters from other societies and cultures take issue with that stuff and they see the Republicans are more in agreement with their line of thinking on those societal issues.

Obviously I could be way off base in terms of what this particular article is speaking to as I can’t read it. I’m just guessing.
 
finesse said:
It just occurred to my meandering mind that The Apprentice might have been the most damaging show to ever air on American TV.
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Of course it was/is - and NBC has already gone on record as regretting they aired it. If not NBC execs themselves, the producers and directors and support staff that help put that show on the air have expressed their chagrin.
 
Centerpiece said:
Of course it was/is - and NBC has already gone on record as regretting they aired it. If not NBC execs themselves, the producers and directors and support staff that help put that show on the air have expressed their chagrin.
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Has Mark Burnett expressed chagrin or regret?
 
Centerpiece said:
Of course it was/is - and NBC has already gone on record as regretting they aired it. If not NBC execs themselves, the producers and directors and support staff that help put that show on the air have expressed their chagrin.
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Ironically, you would think that people who watched that show would be dissuaded from voting for Trump as he came across as such a buffoon on that show.

When he announced he was running for president back in 2015, I thought to myself that The Apprentice was probably enough to make it so no one would take him seriously.
 
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Icky Mettle said:
Ironically, you would think that people who watched that show would be dissuaded from voting for Trump as he came across as such a buffoon on that show.

When he announced he was running for president back in 2015, I thought to myself that the Apprentice was probably enough to make it so no one would take him seriously.
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Same.
 
Icky Mettle said:
Ironically, you would think that people who watched that show would be dissuaded from voting for Trump as he came across as such a buffoon on that show.

When he announced he was running for president back in 2015, I thought to myself that the Apprentice was probably enough to make it so no one would take him seriously.
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When he announced and a few weeks after when, he was polling at 2%, I pegged it as a goof. Who is going to vote for a a guy who had to declare bankruptcy so many times and is running on a campaign based upon his assertion that Obama was not born in the United States ?

Boy was I wrong... I had not watched a single episode of The Apprentice, nor had I watched Fox & Friends daily since 2011
 
Icky Mettle said:
Ironically, you would think that people who watched that show would be dissuaded from voting for Trump as he came across as such a buffoon on that show.

When he announced he was running for president back in 2015, I thought to myself that the Apprentice was probably enough to make it so no one would take him seriously.
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His life story - his public Ed it’d - his personality…

So I thought too.
 
Centerpiece said:
Can’t get past paywall.
I’m guessing it’s all about mores baked into the various cultures regarding sexuality, gender norms, subservience, male dominance, religious beliefs, handmaidens and the like. You know, old school, biblical ideas about how women should know their place and the women who are ok with that.
Also the woke gender stuff the left has trumpeted, not that there is anything wrong with that on its surface… not to me anyway. But I can see where non-white voters from other societies and cultures take issue with that stuff and they see the Republicans are more in agreement with their line of thinking on those societal issues.

Obviously I could be way off base in terms of what this particular article is speaking to as I can’t read it. I’m just guessing.
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Apologies. I got a supposedly Gift link.
 
nycfan said:
Apologies. I got a supposedly Gift link.
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Try this @Centerpiece @nycfan

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wapo.st

While I may agree with their conclusions, for me, that was a terribly written piece. Nonsense headline. Meandering "story". It was written like an animated adventure for preteens. They could've probably made a much more convincing argument with half the words. Or maybe that's just me.

Conclusion: People voted based on emotional appeals to their culture (think ideology not ethnicity). Minorities (in the US, UK, and Canada) who are more conservative in their ideology moved toward the conservatives based on culture-war arguments. Not necessarily pro-trump; more anti-woke.

ETA: Except for Bezos, I really like wapo. I really, really like data analysis. I'm fascinated by why people vote like they do. I should be the center of their target market for that piece. All that being said, it was a frustrating read. Maybe I'm just old.
Get off my lawn.
 
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BillOfRights said:
Try this @Centerpiece @nycfan

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While I may agree with their conclusions, for me, that was a terribly written piece. Nonsense headline. Meandering "story". It was written like an animated adventure for preteens. They could've probably made a much more convincing argument with half the words. Or maybe that's just me.

Conclusion: People voted based on emotional appeals to their culture (think ideology not ethnicity). Minorities (in the US, UK, and Canada) who are more conservative in their ideology moved toward the conservatives based on culture-war arguments. Not necessarily pro-trump; more anti-woke.

ETA: Except for Bezos, I really like wapo. I really, really like data analysis. I'm fascinated by why people vote like they do. I should be the center of their target market for that piece. All that being said, it was a frustrating read. Maybe I'm just old.
Get off my lawn.
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Thanks. Without reading a word, my supposition is validated.
 
Centerpiece said:
Of course it was/is - and NBC has already gone on record as regretting they aired it. If not NBC execs themselves, the producers and directors and support staff that help put that show on the air have expressed their chagrin.
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I was replying to this post by you.

Mark Burnett is THE producer and creator of The Apprentice.

I don’t think he’s expressed regret or chagrin. IIRC, he’s helped uphold NDA’s and legal agreements that keep people from exposing what a buffoon Trump is……threatening to kill careers……he’s “Mr. Reality TV;”. which makes him supremely powerful.
 
Zoo_View said:
I was replying to this post by you.

Mark Burnett is THE producer and creator of The Apprentice.

I don’t think he’s expressed regret or chagrin. IIRC, he’s helped uphold NDA’s and legal agreements that keep people from exposing what a buffoon Trump is……threatening to kill careers……he’s “Mr. Reality TV;”. which makes him supremely powerful.
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And I admitted I’m ignorant. My wife says I’m an asshole. I’m an ignorant asshole that doesn’t watch reality TV.

But let’s not derail the thread any further. The latest Gallup poll shows Trumps approval rating (from June 2025) is at its lowest (40) in his 2nd term. His lowest rating in his first term was 34.

But his poll does not reflect the latest Epstein kurfuffle.Gallup polling shows that Trump's approval ratings at the six-month mark in both of his terms are lower than any other modern president at the same time in their administrations, at 38% and 40% for each term respectively. The average since John F. Kennedy in 1961 is 52%, according to the polling firm.
 
Zoo_View said:
I was replying to this post by you.

Mark Burnett is THE producer and creator of The Apprentice.

I don’t think he’s expressed regret or chagrin. IIRC, he’s helped uphold NDA’s and legal agreements that keep people from exposing what a buffoon Trump is……threatening to kill careers……he’s “Mr. Reality TV;”. which makes him supremely powerful.
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Burnett is currently Trump's US Special Envoy to the UK, so I'm guessing he could give two shits as it seems to have worked out for him quite well.

I've also never seen an episode of The Apprentice, or any other episode of so-called "Reality TV." In the same way I never found Bill Cosby funny, I never saw the appeal of Reality TV.
 
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