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I hate this trope about how Democrats don't give a fuck about rural people. The problem is figuring out what they actually want, and whether it can be reasonably delivered
1. We know about Obamacare, right? Dems tried give everyone health care. Red states refused to expand Medicaid. The voters didn't like that -- in fact, in many states, they passed ballot referenda to require the state to accept the Medicaid expansion. But did they vote out the people who did that to them? They did not. Not a single one, if memory serves me correctly.
2. Both Obama and Biden funded green energy manufacturing programs all over the country, including in rural areas. One would have thought the people screaming that they have no jobs and Dems don't care about them might have been appreciative. Instead, they tried to kill the projects. The Gotion battery plant is still in limbo because a bunch of morons think China is going to be using the factory to spy on them.
And Gotion has been fighting back, fighting in court. And Gretchen Whitmer and the Dems have been supportive. But it's probably not going to get built, at this point. I would be surprised if Gotion remains committed to the project after this year. So the people in Upper Big Bend Michigan, wherever that is, will not be manufacturing batteries. They will still be working highway exit fast food and bitching and complaining.
3. Sometimes rural people hear these complaints and interpret them as yet more bias. "You look down on us!" waah. What am I supposed to do with that? I don't look down on them, but I do think they are being hopelessly stupid and I really don't like getting blamed for it.
I don't have much in common with the average rural person, I'd imagine. Isn't that OK? It doesn't mean that I can't help. But I can't help if all of my efforts are thrown back in my face.
I remember back in college when there was a lot of flooding in various parts of the Midwest. I went out more than once to help fill sandbags for makeshift levees. Once, there was some fucking asshole who drove up in a BMW, got out, grabbed a sandbag, wife snapped a photo of the guy holding it, and then they drove away. Complete asshole move. The people there -- mostly blue-collar types -- automatically assumed the person was from the local university and started cursing it out. I was like, "hey, I'm from the local university too and I've been here three times this week!" It made no difference, and I started to feel unwelcome. I could take a couple of jokes about college educated assholes, but the 15th one is really unpleasant. I didn't go back. Probably they thought I didn't care about them. Because one liberal was a dickhead and the meatheads with chips on their shoulders decided to generalize that to everyone.
1. We know about Obamacare, right? Dems tried give everyone health care. Red states refused to expand Medicaid. The voters didn't like that -- in fact, in many states, they passed ballot referenda to require the state to accept the Medicaid expansion. But did they vote out the people who did that to them? They did not. Not a single one, if memory serves me correctly.
2. Both Obama and Biden funded green energy manufacturing programs all over the country, including in rural areas. One would have thought the people screaming that they have no jobs and Dems don't care about them might have been appreciative. Instead, they tried to kill the projects. The Gotion battery plant is still in limbo because a bunch of morons think China is going to be using the factory to spy on them.
And Gotion has been fighting back, fighting in court. And Gretchen Whitmer and the Dems have been supportive. But it's probably not going to get built, at this point. I would be surprised if Gotion remains committed to the project after this year. So the people in Upper Big Bend Michigan, wherever that is, will not be manufacturing batteries. They will still be working highway exit fast food and bitching and complaining.
3. Sometimes rural people hear these complaints and interpret them as yet more bias. "You look down on us!" waah. What am I supposed to do with that? I don't look down on them, but I do think they are being hopelessly stupid and I really don't like getting blamed for it.
I don't have much in common with the average rural person, I'd imagine. Isn't that OK? It doesn't mean that I can't help. But I can't help if all of my efforts are thrown back in my face.
I remember back in college when there was a lot of flooding in various parts of the Midwest. I went out more than once to help fill sandbags for makeshift levees. Once, there was some fucking asshole who drove up in a BMW, got out, grabbed a sandbag, wife snapped a photo of the guy holding it, and then they drove away. Complete asshole move. The people there -- mostly blue-collar types -- automatically assumed the person was from the local university and started cursing it out. I was like, "hey, I'm from the local university too and I've been here three times this week!" It made no difference, and I started to feel unwelcome. I could take a couple of jokes about college educated assholes, but the 15th one is really unpleasant. I didn't go back. Probably they thought I didn't care about them. Because one liberal was a dickhead and the meatheads with chips on their shoulders decided to generalize that to everyone.
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KFF Health Tracking Poll: The Public's Views of Funding Reductions to Medicaid | KFF
As Congress works to pass the "One Big Beautiful Bill Act," which includes significant changes to Medicaid and the ACA, the latest KFF Health Tracking Poll examines the views of groups that could be most directly impacted by the impending legislation. The poll finds most of the public is worried...
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KFF Health Tracking Poll: The Public's Views of Funding Reductions to Medicaid | KFF
As Congress works to pass the "One Big Beautiful Bill Act," which includes significant changes to Medicaid and the ACA, the latest KFF Health Tracking Poll examines the views of groups that could be most directly impacted by the impending legislation. The poll finds most of the public is worried...
