Black enrollment at UNC drops after ruling. Group who sued now coming for Duke.

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The share of Black students enrolled this fall at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill has dropped in the wake of the landmark Supreme Court ruling that rejected race-conscious college admissions, numbers released Thursday show.

UNC was one of two schools, along with Harvard University, whose admissions practices were challenged in high-profile cases. The decision last year upended decades of legal precedent and changed the ways the country’s most selective colleges choose their students.

The ruling was expected to result in a significant drop in the number of Black and Hispanic or Latino students, as happened in states that had previously barred preferences for applicants based on their race.

So far, some highly selective schools, such as MIT, have reported a drop in the number of students of color, but others, such as Yale and Princeton universities, did not.

Changes in campus diversity since the ruling remain unclear because only a small number of schools have disclosed information about the racial makeup of their new undergraduate classes, the first crop of students admitted after the decision. Harvard, one of the most closely watched, along with UNC, has not yet released racial information about its incoming class. Even the numbers that have been disclosed offer an incomplete picture — data from the schools often does not include raw numbers or comparisons to prior years. The schools’ reported numbers also don’t always reflect the number of students who did not report their race.
At UNC, 10.5 percent of first-year and transfer students enrolling in the fall of 2023 identified as Black or African American, according to university officials. This fall, 7.8 percent did. The share identifying as Hispanic or Latino dipped slightly from 10.8 percent to 10.1 percent. The number identifying as Asian or Asian American rose slightly, from 24.8 percent last fall to 25.8 this year. The number of White or Caucasian students held steady — 63.7 last fall and 63.8 percent this fall.
 
Concomitant rise in enrollment at state HBCUs perhaps? Other branch campuses?
 
So evidently NC is about 3.5% Asian (25.8% of total this year) ,21% AfAm ( 7.8 of total this year) and 61.55 White (63.8 of total this year)
When is MAGA going to figure out how to Block Asian students???
 
So evidently NC is about 3.5% Asian (25.8% of total this year) ,21% AfAm ( 7.8 of total this year) and 61.55 White (63.8 of total this year)
When is MAGA going to figure out how to Block Asian students???

It seems like the powers that be were doing a great job blocking Asians for a long time before this ruling. MAGA should ask them.

But more seriously, that is a massive percentage of Asian kids qualifying to go to University. We should figure out what they are doing and have everyone emulate.
 
It seems like the powers that be were doing a great job blocking Asians for a long time before this ruling. MAGA should ask them.

But more seriously, that is a massive percentage of Asian kids qualifying to go to University. We should figure out what they are doing and have everyone emulate.
No we shouldn’t.
 
I don't know the numbers but the Asian and Asian-American percentages at Duke are ridiculously high compared to just a few years ago when I was in school (and by a few years, I mean it is sad for me to think it's been that long)
 

The share of Black students enrolled this fall at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill has dropped in the wake of the landmark Supreme Court ruling that rejected race-conscious college admissions, numbers released Thursday show.

UNC was one of two schools, along with Harvard University, whose admissions practices were challenged in high-profile cases. The decision last year upended decades of legal precedent and changed the ways the country’s most selective colleges choose their students.

The ruling was expected to result in a significant drop in the number of Black and Hispanic or Latino students, as happened in states that had previously barred preferences for applicants based on their race.

So far, some highly selective schools, such as MIT, have reported a drop in the number of students of color, but others, such as Yale and Princeton universities, did not.

Changes in campus diversity since the ruling remain unclear because only a small number of schools have disclosed information about the racial makeup of their new undergraduate classes, the first crop of students admitted after the decision. Harvard, one of the most closely watched, along with UNC, has not yet released racial information about its incoming class. Even the numbers that have been disclosed offer an incomplete picture — data from the schools often does not include raw numbers or comparisons to prior years. The schools’ reported numbers also don’t always reflect the number of students who did not report their race.
At UNC, 10.5 percent of first-year and transfer students enrolling in the fall of 2023 identified as Black or African American, according to university officials. This fall, 7.8 percent did. The share identifying as Hispanic or Latino dipped slightly from 10.8 percent to 10.1 percent. The number identifying as Asian or Asian American rose slightly, from 24.8 percent last fall to 25.8 this year. The number of White or Caucasian students held steady — 63.7 last fall and 63.8 percent this fall.
I wonder what the application breakdown looks like. I could see an increase in apps from non-URM and a decrease from URM accounting for part of the changes. It will be worth watching trends over the next few years.
 
Agreed. It's not fair to paint with a broad brush...BUT...I can tell you that the amount of stress many Asian families put on kids even at the elementary level is supremely unhealthy.
My wife works part time at a tutoring center, and over the summers almost all of their students are Asian or Indian, who are at/above grade level proficiency.
 
It seems like the powers that be were doing a great job blocking Asians for a long time before this ruling. MAGA should ask them.

But more seriously, that is a massive percentage of Asian kids qualifying to go to University. We should figure out what they are doing and have everyone emulate.
"New research reveals that the youth mental health crisis is taking a heavy toll on the Asian American community. Statistics from the CDC show that suicide is the first leading cause of death for Asian American young adults—accounting for one-third of the deaths among Asian Americans aged 20–24. This is the only racial group within this age demographic for whom this is true."
 
I wonder what the application breakdown looks like. I could see an increase in apps from non-URM and a decrease from URM accounting for part of the changes. It will be worth watching trends over the next few years.
There is about 2% missing from losses in African Americans/ Latinos, and the gains for what is listed in the article for. I am guessing there was an increase in "other" or "biracial" or something, but sadly the article doesn't give all the info.
 
Crazy how Confucius said "Study!" and billions of people went "okay"
 
My wife works part time at a tutoring center, and over the summers almost all of their students are Asian or Indian, who are at/above grade level proficiency.
That lines up with what I hear from the elementary teacher spouse. He says that his Asian and Indian parents are constantly stressing over EOGs even on the first day of school and continually asking for more work, more testing, more of everything. While he appreciates the involvement, he gets REALLY frustrated with them not letting these kids just be kids.
 
That lines up with what I hear from the elementary teacher spouse. He says that his Asian and Indian parents are constantly stressing over EOGs even on the first day of school and continually asking for more work, more testing, more of everything. While he appreciates the involvement, he gets REALLY frustrated with them not letting these kids just be kids.
Our kids went to middle school in Northern VA, and the Asian/Indian parents would push for HS AP classes at that level. Unlike anything we had ever seen…we spent the previous 8 years living in coastal SC and coastal FL.
 
That's your takeaway from Asian enrollment rising from 24.8% to 25.8%?
It was a joke. Let me explain it to you. You asked when MAGA was going to figure out how to block Asian students. I replied, with my tongue buried deeply in my cheek, that they should ask the school administrators and admissions officers what they had been doing for years to block Asian students if they were looking for an example.
 
There is about 2% missing from losses in African Americans/ Latinos, and the gains for what is listed in the article for. I am guessing there was an increase in "other" or "biracial" or something, but sadly the article doesn't give all the info.

I think biracial might be cooked into the numbers because those four subgroups account for about 110% of incoming freshmen even without accounting for native American and other students.
 
That lines up with what I hear from the elementary teacher spouse. He says that his Asian and Indian parents are constantly stressing over EOGs even on the first day of school and continually asking for more work, more testing, more of everything. While he appreciates the involvement, he gets REALLY frustrated with them not letting these kids just be kids.
This aligns with my wife's experience. She doesn't have many East Asian kids but she has a number of Indian kids and the parents drive her crazy. They email her at night regularly asking for explanations on specific classwork questions that don't mean jack shit. They are WAY too involved in the minutiae of their kids education and they make their kids miserable.

Another anecdote....my great-nephew's best friend growing up was an Indian kid in the neighborhood. When they were in middle school, a new high school was opening and they were assigned to the new school. The Indian kid's family moved to a different neighborhood so he could go to the "better" high school in the district. Then he got accepted to the NCSSM so it was all for naught. But his parents never permit him to stay for the weekend at the boarding school. They go pick him up every weekend and bring him home. Maybe it works that way for a lot of kids at NCSSM, there was no such school in my day, but I did know kids who went to what was then called the NC School of the Arts in high school and they sure as hell stayed in WS most weekends.
 
There are a lot of immigrants from China and India in our community. Our oldest was an early bloomer academically and once he became known to the parents of his Asian classmates and friends, we probably had a family reach out to us every other week wanting to know what our secret was. Our response was “nothing noteworthy.” Many of them had trouble accepting that. One mother, we later learned, thought we were hiding the truth to hold a competitive advantage.

This was in Kindergarten.
 
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