Canada Catch-All | Trump 51st State “plan”

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The proposed expansion of a Quebec landfill that accepts hazardous waste from the United States has ignited a turf war between the Quebec provincial government and local leaders, who say they oppose putting US trash into a local peat bog.

Local leaders are protesting the move – saying the state is capitulating to a US company in the midst of a tariff war between Canada and the United States.


For a year, the Montreal suburb of Blainville has been refusing to sell a piece of city-owned forest land to facilitate the expansion of Stablex, a US-owned company that treats and stores hazardous waste, including 33,000 tons exported from the US in 2023. Tech billionaire Bill Gates is listed as a stakeholder in the company.

Last week the Quebec minister of natural resources and forests introduced a bill to force the city to sell the land to allow the expansion to go forward, saying the waste site is about to run out of space and the government must act quickly to avoid a stoppage in hazardous waste disposal.

The company says it offers a safe way to dispose of toxic waste that could otherwise pollute the environment, but opposition leaders questioned whether Canada should be handling US waste.

“We are not the trash can of the United States,” Ruba Ghazal, an opposition member of Quebec’s parliament, said at a press conference. She said it is unacceptable for Quebec’s ruling conservative party to “expropriate a city to give it to Trump’s United States”.
 
The proposed expansion of a Quebec landfill that accepts hazardous waste from the United States has ignited a turf war between the Quebec provincial government and local leaders, who say they oppose putting US trash into a local peat bog.

Local leaders are protesting the move – saying the state is capitulating to a US company in the midst of a tariff war between Canada and the United States.


For a year, the Montreal suburb of Blainville has been refusing to sell a piece of city-owned forest land to facilitate the expansion of Stablex, a US-owned company that treats and stores hazardous waste, including 33,000 tons exported from the US in 2023. Tech billionaire Bill Gates is listed as a stakeholder in the company.

Last week the Quebec minister of natural resources and forests introduced a bill to force the city to sell the land to allow the expansion to go forward, saying the waste site is about to run out of space and the government must act quickly to avoid a stoppage in hazardous waste disposal.

The company says it offers a safe way to dispose of toxic waste that could otherwise pollute the environment, but opposition leaders questioned whether Canada should be handling US waste.

“We are not the trash can of the United States,” Ruba Ghazal, an opposition member of Quebec’s parliament, said at a press conference. She said it is unacceptable for Quebec’s ruling conservative party to “expropriate a city to give it to Trump’s United States”.
I think it is cool that Chapel Hill sends all its garbage to a Derm dump
 


After President Trump imposed tariffs on Canada on Tuesday, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made an extraordinary statement that was largely lost in the fray of the moment.

“The excuse that he’s giving for these tariffs today of fentanyl is completely bogus, completely unjustified, completely false,” Mr. Trudeau told the news media in Ottawa.

“What he wants is to see a total collapse of the Canadian economy, because that’ll make it easier to annex us,” he added.

… On those calls [in February], President Trump laid out a long list of grievances he had with the trade relationship between the two countries, including Canada’s protected dairy sector, the difficulty American banks face in doing business in Canada and Canadian consumption taxes that Mr. Trump deems unfair because they make American goods more expensive.

He also brought up something much more fundamental.

He told Mr. Trudeau that he did not believe that the treaty that demarcates the border between the two countries was valid and that he wants to revise the boundary. He offered no further explanation.

The border treaty Mr. Trump referred to was established in 1908 and finalized the international boundary between Canada, then a British dominion, and the United States.

Mr. Trump also mentioned revisiting the sharing of lakes and rivers between the two nations, which is regulated by a number of treaties, a topic he’s expressed interest about in the past. …”
 

After President Trump imposed tariffs on Canada on Tuesday, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made an extraordinary statement that was largely lost in the fray of the moment.

“The excuse that he’s giving for these tariffs today of fentanyl is completely bogus, completely unjustified, completely false,” Mr. Trudeau told the news media in Ottawa.

“What he wants is to see a total collapse of the Canadian economy, because that’ll make it easier to annex us,” he added.

… On those calls [in February], President Trump laid out a long list of grievances he had with the trade relationship between the two countries, including Canada’s protected dairy sector, the difficulty American banks face in doing business in Canada and Canadian consumption taxes that Mr. Trump deems unfair because they make American goods more expensive.

He also brought up something much more fundamental.

He told Mr. Trudeau that he did not believe that the treaty that demarcates the border between the two countries was valid and that he wants to revise the boundary. He offered no further explanation.

The border treaty Mr. Trump referred to was established in 1908 and finalized the international boundary between Canada, then a British dominion, and the United States.


Mr. Trump also mentioned revisiting the sharing of lakes and rivers between the two nations, which is regulated by a number of treaties, a topic he’s expressed interest about in the past. …”
“… While Mr. Trump’s remarks could all be bluster or a negotiating tactic to pressure Canada into concessions on trade or border security, the Canadian side no longer believes that to be so.

… Mr. Lutnick called Mr. LeBlanc after the leaders had spoken on Feb. 3, and issued a devastating message, according to several people familiar with the call: Mr. Trump, he said, had come to realize that the relationship between the United States and Canada was governed by a slew of agreements and treaties that were easy to abandon.

Mr. Trump was interested in doing just that, Mr. Lutnick said.

He wanted to eject Canada out of an intelligence-sharing group known as the Five Eyes that also includes Britain, Australia and New Zealand.

He wanted to tear up the Great Lakes agreements and conventions between the two nations that lay out how they share and manage Lakes Superior, Huron, Erie and Ontario.

And he is also reviewing military cooperation between the two countries, particularly the North American Aerospace Defense Command.

… Canada’s politicians across the spectrum, and Canadian society at large, are frayed and deeply concerned. Officials do not see the Trump administration’s threats as empty; they see a new normal when it comes to the United States. …”
 
Who put the bug in Trump’s addled brain about the US-Canada border and the treaty(s) that govern it? And, treaty(s)/agreements concerning the Great Lakes?

Trump didn’t dream this up on his own.
 
I am 100% serious when I say people around here are talking about what they will do if they have to find an insurgent war. People are completely expecting they are going to have to literally fight the US.
 
Who put the bug in Trump’s addled brain about the US-Canada border and the treaty(s) that govern it? And, treaty(s)/agreements concerning the Great Lakes?

Trump didn’t dream this up on his own.
That’s for sure. Bet you he couldn’t tell you one thing about any of the treaties. JFC! He’s going to fuck around and get us in a war with Canada, one of our very closest allies. Come on trumpers, what say you?
 
That’s for sure. Bet you he couldn’t tell you one thing about any of the treaties. JFC! He’s going to fuck around and get us in a war with Canada, one of our very closest allies. Come on trumpers, what say you?
They will eventually determine all this is Canada’s fault, the same way they decided to blame Ukraine for Russia’s invasion. They don’t know it yet but the right wing propaganda machine will have them fully on board with how Canada has taken advantage of the US and we are fully justified invading and conquering those thankless Canadians. Just watch how the script flips from comedic disbelief to conservative outrage over the mistreatment and disrespect Canada is guilty of showing the US, even after we have protected them all these years. They will be telling us how Canada owes us billions. Just watch Trump try to tighten the screws on the Canadian economy with full-throated MAGA support.

Will this be a bridge too far for the “regular non-MAGA Republicans?” No way. They will also be all in on this nonsense because any Republican with any fucking sense is no longer a Republican.
 
I am 100% serious when I say people around here are talking about what they will do if they have to find an insurgent war. People are completely expecting they are going to have to literally fight the US.
All Putin had to do was sell don on the legacy and power of imperialism. Don is the easiest mark in the history of US politics. What Putin has also done is drastically raised the odds of civilization coming completely undone, and millions, if not billions, dying unnecessarily. I think the Musks, sacks, theils of the world view that as a welcomed opportunity.
 
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