superrific
Legend of ZZL
- Messages
- 5,512
Either way, we are very, very far from being Greece in 2010.
Canada Catch-All | Trump 51st State “plan”
- Thread starter nycfan
- Start date
- Replies: 150
- Views: 3K
- Politics
heelslegup
Distinguished Member
- Messages
- 418
I think the Canadian provinces should be states 51-60 with Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, and New Zealand becoming 61-65.
That should fix the current Electoral College and US Senate imbalances/ This should please the MAGA folks: it will make the country more "white" albeit a good bit more progressive so win/win
That should fix the current Electoral College and US Senate imbalances/ This should please the MAGA folks: it will make the country more "white" albeit a good bit more progressive so win/win
- Messages
- 1,672
I can't find the tariff thread for some reason, but this seems like a ridiculous request.
U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent encouraged Canada on Friday to follow Mexico in matching U.S. tariffs on Chinese goods as the two U.S. neighbors sought to avoid punishing 25% U.S. tariffs due on Tuesday over fentanyl trafficking.
Canadian and Mexican officials have fanned out across Washington seeking to show President Donald Trump's administration that they were making progress in securing their U.S. borders to curb the flow of the dangerous opioid.
Bessent, speaking in a Bloomberg Television interview, said Mexico had proposed matching the U.S. tariffs aimed at China, but he did not specify which level. Trump on February 4 imposed a 10% duty on all Chinese imports, then said on Thursday he would double that to 20% from Tuesday.
"I think it would be a nice gesture if the Canadians did it also - so in a way, we could have fortress North America from the flood of Chinese imports that's coming out of the most unbalanced economy in the history of modern times," Bessent said.
U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent encouraged Canada on Friday to follow Mexico in matching U.S. tariffs on Chinese goods as the two U.S. neighbors sought to avoid punishing 25% U.S. tariffs due on Tuesday over fentanyl trafficking.
Canadian and Mexican officials have fanned out across Washington seeking to show President Donald Trump's administration that they were making progress in securing their U.S. borders to curb the flow of the dangerous opioid.
Bessent, speaking in a Bloomberg Television interview, said Mexico had proposed matching the U.S. tariffs aimed at China, but he did not specify which level. Trump on February 4 imposed a 10% duty on all Chinese imports, then said on Thursday he would double that to 20% from Tuesday.
"I think it would be a nice gesture if the Canadians did it also - so in a way, we could have fortress North America from the flood of Chinese imports that's coming out of the most unbalanced economy in the history of modern times," Bessent said.
- Messages
- 15,008
I merged a bunch of existing Trump Admin threads into a single topic to try to be responsive to some poster critiques of having too many different Trump and Musk threads, and also to give space for other topics to breathe, but feel free to start a new tariffs specific thread as I was probably over inclusive in the mega-merge.
- Messages
- 1,672
Canada hoping to capitalize on US brain drain.
www.canadim.com
Just Announced: 2025 Express Entry Categories
The main update in the 2025 announcement is the announcement of the new Education Occupations EE category. This new category is a pathway for foreign professionals in education to apply for Canadian permanent residency. This new pathway addresses the growing demand for skilled workers in the education sector. The occupations eligible for this category include:
The addition of this new category demonstrates not only the importance of education professionals but also addresses the growing demand and shortage of qualified educators in certain parts of Canada.
The categories for 2025 include:
Just Announced: 2025 Express Entry Categories
On February 27, 2025, the Honourable Marc Miller, Minister of Immigration, Refugees, and Citizenship Canada (IRCC), announced the updated Express Entry (EE) categories for the year.
www.canadim.com
Just Announced: 2025 Express Entry Categories
The main update in the 2025 announcement is the announcement of the new Education Occupations EE category. This new category is a pathway for foreign professionals in education to apply for Canadian permanent residency. This new pathway addresses the growing demand for skilled workers in the education sector. The occupations eligible for this category include:- Teachers (Secondary school teachers, Elementary school and kindergarten teachers, Elementary and secondary school teacher assistants etc.)
- Child Care Educators
- Instructors for individuals requiring extra assistance
The addition of this new category demonstrates not only the importance of education professionals but also addresses the growing demand and shortage of qualified educators in certain parts of Canada.
The categories for 2025 include:
- Healthcare and Social Services Occupations
- French-Language Proficiency
- Trade Occupations such as construction, manufacturing and industrial
- Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math (STEM) Occupations
- Agriculture and Agri-Food Occupations
- New Education Occupations Category
- Messages
- 1,672
Canada Curbed Illegal Migration to the U.S. Now People Are Heading to Canada.
The Canadian government has reinforced border operations to stop migrants going to the United States, a major Trump complaint. But early data shows people are, instead, starting to flee the United States for Canada.
Even before his inauguration, Mr. Trump accused Canada of allowing large numbers of unauthorized migrants to enter the United States. He has made stopping that movement a key demand as he threatens to impose crippling tariffs on Canadian exports to the United States.
After a one-month reprieve, Mr. Trump says those tariffs will now go into effect on Tuesday.
Canada has mobilized. It has deployed more staff and equipment along the border and tightened visa rules that critics say made Canada a steppingstone to enter the United States illegally.
The number of illegal crossings into the United States from Canada was relatively low to begin with, and has now plummeted, indicating that Canada’s response to Mr. Trump’s pressure is working.
But now a new dynamic is emerging at the border: Asylum seekers are fleeing north to Canada as Mr. Trump has embarked on his plan for sweeping deportations.
heelslegup
Distinguished Member
- Messages
- 418
Trump has truly gone off the rails on tariffs by using tariff threats to replace diplimacy with every nation. What is the point of Canada and Mexico reaching am agnother agreement like USMCA which Trump personally negotiated and even named but now ignores. Whatever is agreed to now he will just ignore if they don't kowtow to him in future.
The only way htis will stop is if China halts exports of a couple of rare eather metals whgere they are obnly shource and are used in US weapons systems or 2) goes after US agriculture again like they did in Trumo 1 which stopped all the foolishness but cost USG $60 billion in subsideies and many small and mid-size farmers lost their land
The other danger with this Trump idiocy is that at some point China and EU will give each other MFN trading status dea;s and freeze US out since they have become an unreliable trading partner.
The only way htis will stop is if China halts exports of a couple of rare eather metals whgere they are obnly shource and are used in US weapons systems or 2) goes after US agriculture again like they did in Trumo 1 which stopped all the foolishness but cost USG $60 billion in subsideies and many small and mid-size farmers lost their land
The other danger with this Trump idiocy is that at some point China and EU will give each other MFN trading status dea;s and freeze US out since they have become an unreliable trading partner.
- Messages
- 1,672
Trump Picks Another Trade Fight With Canada Over Lumber
The president initiated an investigation that could lead to tariffs on lumber imports, nearly half of which comes from Canada.
President Trump on Saturday initiated an investigation into whether imports of lumber threaten America’s national security, a step that is likely to further inflame relations with Canada, the largest exporter of wood to the United States.
The president directed his commerce secretary, Howard Lutnick, to carry out the investigation. The results of the inquiry could allow the president to apply tariffs to lumber imports. A White House official declined to say how long the inquiry would take.
An executive memorandum signed by Mr. Trump ordered the investigation and was accompanied by another document that White House officials said would expand the volume of lumber offered for sale each year, increasing supply and helping to ensure that timber prices do not rise.
The trade inquiry is likely to further anger Canada. Some of its citizens have called for boycotts of American products over Mr. Trump’s plans to impose tariffs on all Canadian imports beginning on Tuesday. The president, who also plans to hit Mexico with similar tariffs, says the levies are punishment for failure to stem the flow of drugs and migrants into the United States.
CRHeel94
Esteemed Member
- Messages
- 538
Forcing countries to choose could have unintended consequences. I'd keep an eye on Australia.
superrific
Legend of ZZL
- Messages
- 5,512
1. I'm pretty sure that China and the EU already have MFN status. MFN status has been a condition of GATT/WTO since the outset. Even though Trump broke the functionality of GATT/WTO in his first term, I don't think either country or bloc has changed its laws to lose compliance with GATT treaty. And the US isn't going to be frozen out of MFN status unless Trump decides to exit the GATT.
2. I think maybe you're thinking of a bilateral or trilateral deal between EU and PRC. Bilateral deals are funny creatures under GATT. They should be violations of MFN, but they are allowed because, I guess, countries like trading with their neighbors. Hence NAFTA, or Uruguay/Brazil/Argentina trade zone, etc. Generally speaking, these deals are usually regional and made with neighbors (because neighbors are usually their biggest trading partners per capita), but they don't have to be.
3. A true bilateral agreement between China and Europe seems unlikely. The GATT requires it to basically eliminate all or substantially all tariffs within the free trade zone, and China and Europe are nowhere near that. China, in particular, isn't going to find anyone willing to sign a bilateral deal until China loosens its investment regs, which I doubt is coming. Also, Europe and China see each other as rivals, if not enemies (the latter, I don't really know about). Europe is trying to lessen its dependence on China, and China probably sees no benefit to trading with Europe specifically.
It's more likely that Europe and China -- if they want to work together -- would take tacit steps to encourage trade with each other, rather than alter their tariffs or regulations. For instance, to take a made-up and not realistic example to illustrate the theoretical point, maybe Europe and China would build an over-land trade route and allow free passage of goods over that route, so long as the trade stays on land the whole time. That promotes trade between the two, without altering MFN status for anyone else. [As a technical note: that system would be a tough question under GATT, not clearly legal but not clearly illegal either].
- Messages
- 1,672
Newly re-elected Premier Doug Ford doubled down Monday on his threat to cut off electricity flowing from Ontario to several American states if the U.S. moves ahead with tariffs.
"If they want to try to annihilate Ontario, I will do anything — including cutting off their energy — with a smile on my face," Ford said during his first news conference since winning a third majority last week. Ontario is a major electricity exporter to New York, Michigan and Minnesota.
"They need to feel the pain. They want to come at us? We've got to go back twice as hard," Ford continued.
The comments came on the eve of U.S. President Donald Trump's 25 per cent tariffs on Canadian goods, and 10 per cent on energy.
"If they want to try to annihilate Ontario, I will do anything — including cutting off their energy — with a smile on my face," Ford said during his first news conference since winning a third majority last week. Ontario is a major electricity exporter to New York, Michigan and Minnesota.
"They need to feel the pain. They want to come at us? We've got to go back twice as hard," Ford continued.
The comments came on the eve of U.S. President Donald Trump's 25 per cent tariffs on Canadian goods, and 10 per cent on energy.
superrific
Legend of ZZL
- Messages
- 5,512
Oh good, Doug Ford is coming to the rescue. Hey, Doug -- you're hitting the wrong states. I get the sentiment and appreciate it, but cutting off power to NY ain't gonna do a damn thing.
- Messages
- 1,672
Many Americans and Canadians say higher U.S. tariffs hurt both economies; half of Canadians boycott U.S. companies | YouGov
Americans and Canadians differ sharply in their view of each country's relation to the other: Only 6% of Americans view Canada as unfriendly or an enemy, while 50% of Canadians view the U.S. this way.
today.yougov.com
Similar shares of American Democrats (86%) and Republicans (83%) say that Canada is an ally or friendly to the U.S. However, Democrats are more likely than Republicans to consider Canada to be an ally (62% vs. 43%).
Among Canadians, Conservatives (48%) are more likely than Liberals (32%) and New Democrats (15%) to consider the U.S. an ally or friendly.
...
Americans have mixed views on tariffs for goods imported in the U.S. 25% say that they should be increased and 22% say that they should be decreased. 30% of Americans say that tariffs should be kept the same.
Democrats and Republicans have vastly different opinions. Only 8% of Democrats say that tariffs on foreign goods should be increased compared to 51% of Republicans. 80% of Democrats think that tariffs should stay the same or be decreased, compared to 29% of Republicans.
...
Support for measures in response to U.S. tariffs on Canadian goods is widespread among Canadians. The responses Canadians are most likely to support, among those surveyed, are diversifying trade partners (77%), increasing border security (77%), and stopping the sale of U.S. liquor (72%) if the U.S. were to implement tariffs on Canadian goods.
Canadian Liberals are as likely or more likely than Conservatives to support all eight measures asked about. New Democrats are more likely than Conservatives to support nearly all measures included in the survey, with the exceptions of increasing border security and appointing a fentanyl czar.
...
Many Canadians also say that they are making changes to their shopping habits. The majority of Canadians (65%) say they have or plan on researching to see if the companies they shop at are Canadian-owned.
Majorities of Liberals (78%) and New Democrats (83%) say they have or will research which companies are Canadian-owned. While many Conservatives say they plan on researching if companies are Canadian-owned, the share who plan to do so is slightly lower at 56%.
...
Half of Canadians (53%) claim they have already started some form of boycott of American companies. Liberals (67%) and New Democrats (70%) are most likely to say that they are boycotting American companies. Conservatives are more in line with the national average, with almost half (46%) saying that they are boycotting.
...
- Messages
- 1,672
Point Roberts starts to feel the cold shoulder from Canada
Business in the tiny pene-exclave south of Vancouver has been anything but typical since U.S. President Donald Trump announced plans to impose hefty tariffs on Canadian imports, putting a chill on neighbourly relations
www.theglobeandmail.com
Business in the tiny pene-exclave south of Vancouver has been anything but typical since U.S. President Donald Trump announced plans to impose hefty tariffs on Canadian imports, putting a chill on neighbourly relations. Just 13 square kilometres and separated from the rest of Washington State by a 40-kilometre drive across two international border crossings, Point Roberts attributes about 90 per cent of its economic activity to Canada. About half of residents are dual citizens.
On top of inflationary costs, a weak Canadian dollar and the lasting effects of pandemic-related closings, locals say the threat of tariffs and resulting pledges by Canadians to shop local have had an immediate and significant impact.
“It really did just cut off like that,” Ms. Hansen said, clapping her hands together.
She is trying to remain optimistic, holding out hope that spring break will bring back the cottage crowd of better years. But February proved to be one of her least profitable months on record, and she worries about the 14 people she employs across two restaurants.
sringwal
Esteemed Member
- Messages
- 642
Guam, Puerto Rico, American Samoa, and the U.S. Virgin Islands get first shot.
District of Columbia.
sringwal
Esteemed Member
- Messages
- 642
After the others, but yes.
- Messages
- 1,672
Tariff tensions fuel ‘buy local’ surge in Halifax
United States tariffs on Canadian exports are driving consumers in the Maritimes to change their shopping behaviours.
Tariff tensions fuel ‘buy local’ surge in Halifax
According to the poll, 75 per cent of Canadians said they have changed their purchasing habits, including 63 per cent saying they’ve shifted to look for Canadian options....
“Right now, I have to say I can’t do it,” said shopper Jim D’Ambrogi, when asked about buying American products. “Yes, absolutely [I’m boycotting]. I thought maybe if there’s something I can’t find, I might, but I feel sorry for the American citizens.”
D’Ambrogi, who grew up in the U.S. before becoming a Canadian citizen, says the tariff war has fueled a sense of national pride in supporting Canadian-made goods.
- Messages
- 1,672
