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lawtig02 said:
I nominated Joe Biden for showing us the peaceful transfer of power is still possible.
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Makes sense given the committee gave one to Obama for simply being a black man (partial). Bar pretty low for Dem Presidents.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
"The way THEY move?" Is Leavitt actually two people? Although he did mention her brain, it's pretty obvious from that statement what Trump values in the women who work for him, and it's not intelligence.
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Lips. She has two lips.

Trump is very focused on appearance - especially for press secretary and especially for women. Remember him ragging on Sean Spicer’s ill-fitting suit on Day 1? Since Sarah Sanders left the position, it has been a rotating cast of sorority members.
 
mpaer said:
Yea that ACA was a nothing burger
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What does ACA have to do with an international peace prize? In any event, he won it in 2009. What had Obama accomplished in his first few months of his Presidency which merited a Peace Prize? My point is Trump has accomplished a lot more and deserves the prize.
 
Ramrouser said:
What does ACA have to do with an international peace prize? In any event, he won it in 2009. What had Obama accomplished in his first few months of his Presidency which merited a Peace Prize? My point is Trump has accomplished a lot more and deserves the prize.
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He was nominated for what the world hoped he would do-that is true
He had inherited the Great Recession and a Nation gone wild with war-against anybody but the Saudis that manned all the 9/11 planes. It was as if the world was finally breathing again after another massive republican cluster duck of an administration
 
mpaer said:
He was nominated for what the world hoped he would do-that is true
He had inherited the Great Recession and a Nation gone wild with war-against anybody but the Saudis that manned all the 9/11 planes. It was as if the world was finally breathing again after another massive republican cluster duck of an administration
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It was definitely an anti-Iraq War award.
 
nycfan said:


“…The Trump administration still values the U.S.-India partnership, officials say. But ties between Washington and New Delhi have steadily soured over disputes about trade, Russia and whether Trump deserves credit for brokering a cease-fire following a four-day conflict in May between India and its rival Pakistan.

… Trump, current and former officials said, is deeply frustrated by the lack of progress with New Delhi.

A point of contention in tariff negotiations is the U.S.’s push to open India’s agricultural markets, which employs over 40% of the country’s workforce.

Opening up the sector, which has long been protected by New Delhi, would anger India’s farmers, a powerful voting bloc. That presents a perilous political risk for Modi, who abandoned an effort in 2021 to deregulate the agricultural sector after facing nationwide protests from farmers.

…Trump posted on social media that his team brokered a deal that led to a cease-fire on May 10. Pakistan embraced the announcement, praising Trump and nominating him for the Nobel Peace Prize.

India, by contrast, bristled at Trump’s assertions and insisted no outside power dictated the cease-fire. India’s insistence that the U.S. role was overblown has privately angered Trump, who has told aides he’s upset with Modi for not thanking him.

…Trump strained ties even further by offering to mediate the longstanding Kashmir dispute between India and Pakistan.

“That was embarrassing for India. India has always rejected the idea of third-party mediation, something that Pakistan has always sought,” said Lisa Curtis, a former senior National Security Council official who oversaw South Asia policy in Trump’s first term.

“If there had just been one or two tweets on May 10, the two sides could have recovered from it. However, Trump has talked multiple times about the U.S. bringing about the cease-fire.”…”
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... with friends like Trump ...
 
Ramrouser said:
What does ACA have to do with an international peace prize? In any event, he won it in 2009. What had Obama accomplished in his first few months of his Presidency which merited a Peace Prize? My point is Trump has accomplished a lot more and deserves the prize.
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As I've said before, Obama's Nobel Peace Prize was equal parts lobbying and wishcasting. He didn't deserve it, and he said as much.

However, he deserves it far more than Trump, who is actually a menace. He's anti-peace. You can't get a Nobel Peace Prize if you're sucking the dick of (or even just lap-dancing a genocidal maniac engaged in intentional starvation. You'd have to be actively opposing that. I wouldn't give Biden a Nobel Peace Prize under any circumstances, for that reason - and he was doing more to rein in Bibi than Trump. Also, cozying up to a war monger like Putin, and constantly gifting him concession after concession -- not exactly peace prize worthy.
 
UNCMSinLS said:
... with friends like Trump ...
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When it comes to international diplomacy, Trump reminds me of something that Winston Churchill supposedly said (there's some debate over it) about Eisenhower's bumbling and pompous Secretary of State, John Foster Dulles, whom Churchill loathed: "He is the only bull I know who brings his own China shop with him." Trump is a walking disaster area when it comes to diplomacy. (For good measure, Churchill is also the person who supposedly said of Dulles that a conversation with him was "Dull, Duller, Dulles").
 
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I wonder which of trumps “accomplishments” will put him over the top in the eyes of the committee?

 
I don't think I've ever actually met anyone who thinks that Obama deserved the Nobel Peace Prize.

I always had the feeling that it was just sort of a token gesture in appreciation of the fact that America had elected its first black president, given the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow, and was just sort of an "atta boy" to him and to our country.
 
TarSpiel said:
I always had the feeling that it was just sort of a token gesture in appreciation of the fact that America had elected its first black president, given the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow, and was just sort of an "atta boy" to him and to our country.
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I think they were trying to nudge him in that direction. "Look, you are a man of peace! You're not a warmonger. You can't start wars if you've won the peace prize."

I think also there weren't any great candidates that year, and the Peace Prize committee was also seeking to broaden the scope of what they meant by "peace" -- hence the award given to the climate change researchers.
 
TarSpiel said:
I don't think I've ever actually met anyone who thinks that Obama deserved the Nobel Peace Prize.

I always had the feeling that it was just sort of a token gesture in appreciation of the fact that America had elected its first black president, given the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow, and was just sort of an "atta boy" to him and to our country.
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I really think he was just the face of the putative end of the disastrous Iraq War.
 
Ramrouser said:
Makes sense given the committee gave one to Obama for simply being a black man (partial). Bar pretty low for Dem Presidents.
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According to nobelprize.org...


Barack H. Obama, the 44th President of the United States, had been in power for less than eight months when he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009. Among the reasons it gave, the Nobel Committee lauded Obama for his “extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples”. Emphasis was also given to his support - in word and deed - for the vision of a world free from nuclear weapons.

During his first year in power, President Obama showed himself to be a strong spokesman for human rights and democracy, and as a constructive supporter of the work being done to put effective measures in place to combat the climate crisis. This is in line with his appeal: “Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges”.

As President, he called for a new start to relations between the Muslim world and the West based on common interests and mutual understanding and respect.

He set in motion a plan for the withdrawal of U.S. occupying forces from Iraq.

So strengthen international diplomacy ?
Advocate for a world free from nuclear weapons ?
A call for a global response to global challenges ?
A call for healing relations between the Muslim world and the West ?
A plan to withdraw U. S. forces from Iraq ?

No mention that he was a black man ?
 
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