Election legal battles & fraud claims

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How do they know which voters are naturalized?
Here's how it was supposed to work. If you're thinking, "boy this seems awfully similar to Jim Crow . . . " you're not wrong.

1. Voter shows up to vote.
2. An election "observer" can challenge the voter's eligibility. The basis of the challenge doesn't have to be explained. So "looks foreign" would suffice. Note that the poll worker is included among the people who can challenge. So basically anyone who looks foreign (or doesn't for that matter, but we know how it would be applied) can be challenged.
3. The voter then has to fill out a form attesting to his or her citizenship. One of the questions is whether the person is a naturalized US citizen. If so, the naturalization papers have to be produced. I think a provisional ballot was allowed so long as the naturalization papers were produced within 10 days, which is comically insufficient.
4. If the voter checks the box saying that they are natural born citizens, they can vote. So a naturalized citizen could basically "get away with it" (so to speak; there is of course nothing to get away with) by checking the wrong box. But of course, that exposes them to potential criminal liability for lying on an official government form, etc, etc.

The court's order said basically the state can do this challenge thing if it wants, but cannot require the voter to provide documentation. An affirmative answer to "are you a naturalized citizen" is conclusive to establish the voter's eligibility. Of course, since there's no point to the other stuff except discrimination, the Ohio Sec of State office just stopped doing any of it.
 
Dems sue to either (a) stop the GOP from circumventing election law or (b) confirm what the GOP is doing is legal so that Dems can do the same.

"...Congress has placed strict limits on contributions from national party committees to individual candidates. Those have led to strict requirements governing when and how national parties can cover the cost of campaign advertisements for individual candidates. For so-called hybrid ads, they must split the cost with the candidate, and no more than half the ad can be about a specific race; at least as much time must be spent advocating for general candidates of the party.

But the National Republican Senatorial Committee is skirting those rules and running tens of millions in ads for individual candidates by categorizing them as joint fund-raising appeals. Those are subject to a different set of regulations that allow coordination and place no limits on content beyond that it must include a solicitation.

They are doing so by simply adding a “donate now” appeal in the last few seconds of the ad with a QR code that links to a donation page for a joint fund-raising committee established between the committee and the Republican candidate.

Not only does the technique allow national Republicans to ignore the content restrictions of a hybrid ad, it also allows them to take advantage of a lower television advertising rate available to candidates.

... Since they began using the strategy, Republicans have noticed an uptick in polls for their candidates in key Senate races, they say. ..."

 
Wait, what's the deal with this voter fraud story in Pennsylvania? Did I miss it in another thread?
 

Officials are not being very clear about what exactly is being alleged

"... In a news conference Friday with board members, Lancaster County District Attorney Heather Adams said numerous applications appeared to have the same handwriting and other details, like addresses, appeared incorrect on some applications.

Adams said the investigation is ongoing, and wouldn't comment on who may have dropped off the potentially fraudulent forms.

NPR has previously reported that paid canvassing operations have on occasion included fraudulent signatures that were caught.

Friday's announcement followed what officials in Pennsylvania's Bucks County said Thursday was a fake video circulating on social media of county election workers destroying ballots. ..."
 
lots of illegal voting found in Ohio...

6 cases out of 8 million registered voters

 

Officials are not being very clear about what exactly is being alleged

"... In a news conference Friday with board members, Lancaster County District Attorney Heather Adams said numerous applications appeared to have the same handwriting and other details, like addresses, appeared incorrect on some applications.

Adams said the investigation is ongoing, and wouldn't comment on who may have dropped off the potentially fraudulent forms.

NPR has previously reported that paid canvassing operations have on occasion included fraudulent signatures that were caught.

Friday's announcement followed what officials in Pennsylvania's Bucks County said Thursday was a fake video circulating on social media of county election workers destroying ballots. ..."
I've really been hoping this will be outed as thing MAGA was doing.
 


Keep an eye on this guy vis-a-vis the investigation in PA:





“… Asked who was behind it, Schmidt said, “We understand from the county that there was an outside organization collecting registrations and submitted them right before the voter registration deadline.”

Lancaster County, located in the southeastern part of the state, has leaned Republican in recent elections.

Conservative activist Scott Pressler, founder of the group Early Vote Action, which seeks to register Republicans in swing states like Pennsylvania, denied involvement in the scheme in a post on X on Friday.

… This wouldn’t be the first time paid canvassers have forged political forms. In Michigan, where candidates must gather signatures from supporters to make the ballot, five Republican candidates were disqualified from running for governor in 2022 after paid petition gatherers forged countless nominating petitions.”


Trump won Lancaster County by over 16 points in 2020 and York County by nearly 25 points.

Presser ran ballot request events in those counties focusing on Amish voters. But officials have not confirmed he is the target of the investigation.
 
Presser is pointing the finger elsewhere



Luzerne County has been the center of some genuine controversies in recent PA elections.


Luzerne was Trump +16.4 in 2020, BTW.
 
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