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EXIT POLLS & TURNOUT DATA - The Red Shift

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Willy said:
Are exit polls only sampling those who voted today, or do they also sample early voters?
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Across all forms (today, EV in person and by mail). But the voters today are from early part of day.

These numbers can shift with the latter half of today voters.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
The economy really is the biggest thing that this board has its head in the sand on. I’m a little surprised it’s that large (2/3!) of people saying economy is bad, but economy was always going to be a losing issue for Harris.
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Nobody on this board, least of all me, is surprised that economy is a losing issue for Harris. We have all been lamenting for weeks the fact that the economy is objectively very good but Harris can't campaign on that because the electorate wrongly believes it isn't. I'm just further decrying the fact that we live in a country that is so ignorant of the facts because they are so much more focused on their own personal situation and/or swayed by a constant stream of baseless propaganda telling them the economy is bad.

You could learn with a 5-minute Google how the US is doing in all major, easy-to-understand economic factors. Yet the majority of people either can't put this effort in or don't believe it even when they do. Because, like, they think they should be making 15k more than what they re or that prices should be 15% lower, so that must mean the economy is bad.
 
People apparently equate economy = personal finances.

If people want to say their personal finances suck then that may be true. But our national economy is not bad at all.
 
altmin said:
2016 showed Clinton doing great
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Yep, the 2012 ones are particularly famous because working class votes came in late in the process and changed the understanding. But early voting was a much smaller portion of the total then (and was not being captured anyway).
 
lightbluenc said:
People apparently equate economy = personal finances.

If people want to say their personal finances suck then that may be true. But our national economy is not bad at all.
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If their personal finances suck, they certainly aren't acting that way. Economists always prefer revealed preferences to stated ones, which is a fancy way of saying, "watch what they do, not what they say"
 
I could see MAGAs starting to select Democracy as their top issue, only to trigger their brain to fire off “We’re a Republic, not a Democracy” and they proceed to choose a different option
 
rodoheel said:
"Only about one-third of voters in this year’s election think the economy is in good or excellent shape, according to the initial results of CNN’s national exit poll of voters in this year’s presidential election, down from about half who said the same in 2020. About one-third say the economy is not so good, and another third that it’s poor.

Just one-quarter of voters say they’re personally better off than they were four years ago, with about 45% saying they’re worse off, and about 3 in 10 that they’re doing about the same. In 2020 exit polling, about 4 in 10 said they were doing better, and just 20% that they were worse off."

(That's from the CNN website.) Not saying Dems can't win with these numbers but this is just further confirmation of how many Americans live in an alternate reality. It's hard to see how the economy could be in any better shape at a macro level but 2/3 of Americans think it's "not so good" or "poor." You cannot make an objective case that the economy as a whole is anything other than "good" right now. But voters still generally see the economy as bad because they see themselves as doing poorly.
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Many Americans who aren't a millionaire believe the economy is shit because they deserve to be one but aren't
 
Georgia exit poll data on hurricane response looked better for Trump. Will post when I find it.
 
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