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I don't care what someone's politics are, how awful I find their vote to be, etc.- I can't ever allow myself to openly cheer or laugh at anyone losing a job, their livelihood, etc. That said, it is an important reminder for people that actions (votes) have consequences. In these situations, I try to have as much empathy as I can muster- but I'm not sure I have much sympathy.

FAFO is hard.
 
CFordUNC said:
I don't care what someone's politics are, how awful I find their vote to be, etc.- I can't ever allow myself to openly cheer or laugh at anyone losing a job, their livelihood, etc. That said, it is an important reminder for people that actions (votes) have consequences. In these situations, I try to have as much empathy as I can muster- but I'm not sure I have much sympathy.

FAFO is hard.
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I don’t want anyone to lose their job or suffer hardship, but it’s going to happen to a lot of people because of Trump’s perverse actions. I see nothing wrong with hoping it’s the people who put him in office that are most adversely affected and I do hope for that so very much.
 
“WE ARE ALL HUGE TRUMP SUPPORTERS”

Now we are starting to get to the root of the problem.
 
Jetson said:
I'm just curious, but one of his executive orders was to remove birthright citizenship, which is a Constitutional Right. Of course it will surely face legal challenges, and likely not hold up, but isn't this an example, on Day 1? He's literally trying to take away a Constitutional Right. Or this just "doesn't count" because he just attempted to do so, and won't be successful, and it'll be like, "oh well, no big deal"?

I think setting the bar at taking away Constitutional Rights is also pretty humorous.
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In my opinion there is a difference between an EO that is overturned because it was a bit of stretch (or simply because SCOTUS has differing views) and a blatant abuse of our constitutional rights. This is the latter.
 
CFordUNC said:
I don't care what someone's politics are, how awful I find their vote to be, etc.- I can't ever allow myself to openly cheer or laugh at anyone losing a job, their livelihood, etc. That said, it is an important reminder for people that actions (votes) have consequences. In these situations, I try to have as much empathy as I can muster- but I'm not sure I have much sympathy.

FAFO is hard.
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I just can't bring myself to the point of mustering up an ounce of compassion for these people. I hate them for being short-sighted and stupid, and I want these people to suffer. Not necessarily out of a feeling of vengeance or a need for retribution, but because it seems to be the only way this country will realize how dangerous right-wing politics are.

These people have to suffer to learn the error of their ways.
 
StrangePackage said:
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See, I think this is terrible short-sighted.

Pompeo criticized Trump (at least to some extent) which has led to this. What this tells Trump loyalists is that they can never criticize Trump. That is not good for us. It is not good for America.

People need to put their dislike of Pompeo aside and see the bigger picture here.

How many people here would have said "anyway" during the night of the long knives? Surely Rohm and the others weren't good people so we shouldn't care. Right?

This isn't at that level but the same concept applies. Someone who is willing to f' over Pompeo is definitely willing to f' over every single one of us.
 
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Calheel said:
That seems a bit extreme. Mike has plenty of money to hire a private security detail, if necessary. He does not need the federal government footing the bill.

I mean, I could get behind pure childishness or pure pettiness, but I think pure evil is a bit strong for this one.
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Pompeo may be able to do that but I think the intent is to send a message by putting him in harms way.

If Iran successfully assassinated Pompeo, I think deep down Trump would feel Pompeo got what he had coming to him (and not for the reasons we might think). He would of course publicly decry it and use it to his advantage.
 
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ChapelHillSooner said:
Pompeo may be able to do that but I think the intent is to send a message by putting him in harms way.
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He is in harms way with or without a security detail. So is Bolton. That was baked in before 2020.

Trump is just pulling the security detail. Pompeo has made millions with his business connections to the federal levers of power over the years, so he can spend some of that money on private bodyguards. I'm not going to shed a tear for loss of a government-paid security detail.

Of course Trump is doing it because he is petty and because he wants to send a message to others -- just like a typical mob boss. But I'm going to save "evil" for some of his border policies and family separation plans, not Pompeo having to hire his own security.
 
Calheel said:
Of course Trump is doing it because he is petty and because he wants to send a message to others -- just like a typical mob boss. But I'm going to save "evil" for some of his border policies and family separation plans, not Pompeo having to hire his own security.
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Even if that means that nobody else in Trump's orbit will ever dare speak against him?

Who wins in that case?
 
ChapelHillSooner said:
Even if that means that nobody else in Trump's orbit will ever dare speak against him?

Who wins in that case?
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I’m not saying it’s good. Just can’t get behind evil. I’d go with mob bossy.

And I seriously doubt pulling Pompeo’s government funded security detail is the thing that is going to keep all the Republicans in line as opposed to the 10,000 other things Trump has done and said to keep his minions in line.
 
WaynetheDrain said:
I just can't bring myself to the point of mustering up an ounce of compassion for these people. I hate them for being short-sighted and stupid, and I want these people to suffer. Not necessarily out of a feeling of vengeance or a need for retribution, but because it seems to be the only way this country will realize how dangerous right-wing politics are.

These people have to suffer to learn the error of their ways.
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Agreed, Wayne. BUT, they'll always find an excuse or a scapegoat. The party of "personal responsibility" accepts no personal responsibility.
 
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