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Ramrouser said:
No, this is example 3456 of a so called unbiased mainstream journalist being unmasked (by himself) as a left wing activist. Moran proved correct every critique the Rs have of the legacy media.

The media has no credibility.
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Wrong, this is an example only because you, as most, fail to authentically judge your news sources. They all have some level of bias. The flagship for the right is Fox News, they don't even try to hide their bias. CNN tries so hard to look centrist and unbiased that they let people in the trumpoaphere lie without rebuke. MSNBC is biased to the left.

Why are you pretending that bias is something that only exist on one side?

Additionally it was his opinion, people have those and he was pretty much correct, Steven Miller is a piece of shit, racist bigot that would love to have a right wing dictator in the US.
 
We may be in agreement in that we're now in the era of yellow journalism where all media sources are biased with a distinct point of view. The legacy media over the last decades thoroughly destroyed the era of Cronkite and objective journalism. No one thinks the legacy media is objective.

I (and almost all on the right) consider all of legacy media to be left wing:

NYT, Wash Post, CBS, NBC, ABC, NPR, AP, Axios, Politico, Reuters, etc.

We have Fox, OAN, Newsmax and some random podcasters.
 
Ramrouser said:
We may be in agreement in that we're now in the era of yellow journalism where all media sources are biased with a distinct point of view. The legacy media over the last decades thoroughly destroyed the era of Cronkite and objective journalism. No one thinks the legacy media is objective.

I (and almost all on the right) consider all of legacy media to be left wing:

NYT, Wash Post, CBS, NBC, ABC, NPR, AP, Axios, Politico, Reuters, etc.

We have Fox, OAN, Newsmax and some random podcasters.
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That's because you believe the lies from the right. Everybody ,including them, admit that they do lie.
 
Ramrouser said:
We may be in agreement in that we're now in the era of yellow journalism where all media sources are biased with a distinct point of view. The legacy media over the last decades thoroughly destroyed the era of Cronkite and objective journalism. No one thinks the legacy media is objective.

I (and almost all on the right) consider all of legacy media to be left wing:

NYT, Wash Post, CBS, NBC, ABC, NPR, AP, Axios, Politico, Reuters, etc.

We have Fox, OAN, Newsmax and some random podcasters.
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Using your list, "left wing" includes any mainstream media source not too intimidated to publish news inconsistent with Trump's worldview and his agenda.
The facts and truth don't belong to the right or the left. They exist independently. Just because you don't like the news and it is at odds with your opinions doesn't make it biased.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
Yeah, we've reached the point at which if you criticize Trump or one of his minions, like Miller, you get fired, even from a supposedly "mainstream" legacy media outlet. But if you're a right-wing talking head on Fox you get promoted to a cabinet position. Kind of hard for Trumpers to complain about the "left wing" media when it is so weak that they're willing to fire reporters who dare to make accurate criticisms of a Trump minion, but right-wing media is so powerful that members of it now hold high posts in Dear Leader's administration. The right-wing critique of media has become completely toothless (not that it wasn't already) - despite their claims they are now the dominant media faction, not liberals (not that they ever really were, but that's a topic for a different thread).
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The hypocrisy is a feature. In fact, the hypocrisy is a prime directive.
 
Ramrouser said:
No, this is example 3456 of a so called unbiased mainstream journalist being unmasked (by himself) as a left wing activist. Moran proved correct every critique the Rs have of the legacy media.

The media has no credibility.
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I'm sorry, are you taking the side of Dukie Stephen Miller -- one of the most hateful and horrible Americans we've seen in fifty years, a true psychopath -- over a respected journalist?

Here's the quote: "Miller is a man who is richly endowed with the capacity for hatred. He's a world class hater. You can see this just by looking at him because you can see that his hatreds are his spiritual nourishment. He eats his hate."

That seems 100% true. Are you seriously debating whether Stephen Miller -- a man who ran for high school president on the program of firing the school's Asian housekeeping staff -- is a world-class hater? What exactly did Moran say that is so horribly biased.

You know your head has been completely fucked when you are taking the side of the worst Dukie in the world.
 
Ramrouser said:
We may be in agreement in that we're now in the era of yellow journalism where all media sources are biased with a distinct point of view. The legacy media over the last decades thoroughly destroyed the era of Cronkite and objective journalism. No one thinks the legacy media is objective.

I (and almost all on the right) consider all of legacy media to be left wing:

NYT, Wash Post, CBS, NBC, ABC, NPR, AP, Axios, Politico, Reuters, etc.

We have Fox, OAN, Newsmax and some random podcasters.
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Politico? You have no fucking idea what you are talking about. Politico carries conservatives' water and has for a dozen years.

What you have provided is a list of news organizations, and then another list of bullshit peddler. Anyone who reports FACTS, you deem biased. Fox News literally makes shit up on the air. How many news organizations have, in the history of this country, ever had to pay close to a billion dollar SETTLEMENT for malicious defamation?
 
Guys like Terry Moran, and other mainstream reporters, are afforded the privilege of hosting Presidential debates when, in reality, they are left wing activists. They should be open about their biases like the Fox hosts.
 
superrific said:
I'm sorry, are you taking the side of Dukie Stephen Miller -- one of the most hateful and horrible Americans we've seen in fifty years, a true psychopath -- over a respected journalist?

Here's the quote: "Miller is a man who is richly endowed with the capacity for hatred. He's a world class hater. You can see this just by looking at him because you can see that his hatreds are his spiritual nourishment. He eats his hate."

That seems 100% true. Are you seriously debating whether Stephen Miller -- a man who ran for high school president on the program of firing the school's Asian housekeeping staff -- is a world-class hater? What exactly did Moran say that is so horribly biased.

You know your head has been completely fucked when you are taking the side of the worst Dukie in the world.
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I’ve never mentioned Stephen Miller nor stated my support for him. This is about crazed, TDS left wing bias.
 
Ramrouser said:
I’ve never mentioned Stephen Miller nor stated my support for him. This is about crazed, TDS left wing bias.
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That's who Terry Moran was criticizing. He said Miller is a world-class hater. Is that a true statement or not? If you say it's true, then you're saying Moran should be fired for telling the truth. If you say it's not, then you're siding with Miller.

Once again we get to see the not-at-all epic battle of Ramrouser v. Logic
 
superrific said:
Politico? You have no fucking idea what you are talking about. Politico carries conservatives' water and has for a dozen years.

What you have provided is a list of news organizations, and then another list of bullshit peddler. Anyone who reports FACTS, you deem biased. Fox News literally makes shit up on the air. How many news organizations have, in the history of this country, ever had to pay close to a billion dollar SETTLEMENT for malicious defamation?
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And OAN makes fox look centrist.
 
Ramrouser said:
Guys like Terry Moran, and other mainstream reporters, are afforded the privilege of hosting Presidential debates when, in reality, they are left wing activists. They should be open about their biases like the Fox hosts.
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Oh, so like Mike Johnson said, the bias and corruption are ok as long as it's transparent.

Wonder why the little twerp Mike Johnson isn't transparent about his porn addiction?

But corruption and bias are corruption and bias, it's bad even if out in the open.
 
superrific said:
Politico? You have no fucking idea what you are talking about. Politico carries conservatives' water and has for a dozen years.

What you have provided is a list of news organizations, and then another list of bullshit peddler. Anyone who reports FACTS, you deem biased. Fox News literally makes shit up on the air. How many news organizations have, in the history of this country, ever had to pay close to a billion dollar SETTLEMENT for malicious defamation?
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Fox's defense in that case was that they are NOT a news organization. They are an entertainment channel, of which everyone should be aware.
No one should have believed that what they were saying about Dominion's voting machines was fact rather than opinion and there can be no actual malice for stating opinions. IOW, if it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, everyone knows it's not really a duck.
 
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