Gavin Newsom addresses the nation

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A white, Christian, heterosexual, male in his 40s or 50s from the midwest or south.
Name them.

The Kentucky guy. The Kentucky “nepotism” guy (I know it’s not nepotism; he doesn’t win in Kentucky without who his Daddy was).

Who else?

Who are the Southern, white male Christians from the South or Mid-West,
 
I assume this is a rule that Trump is exempt from?
He was connected to First Presbyterian in Jamaica, Queens and Marble Collegiate Church throughout his life.

I don't think there's much evidence of attendance as an adult, but the affiliation is what matters.
 
I assume this is a rule that Trump is exempt from?
Reagan was as well. He almost never attended a church - pre-POTUS Candidate, POTUS candidate, pre-POTUS, as POTUS, post-POTUS.

Reagan was being thoughtful - he didn’t want to interfere with other people’s religious worship.
 
Name them.

The Kentucky guy. The Kentucky “nepotism” guy (I know it’s not nepotism; he doesn’t win in Kentucky without who his Daddy was).

Who else?

Who are the Southern, white male Christians from the South or Mid-West,
There are about 30,000,000 of them. I'll take any. And I'll open it up to any state that is not Cal, Ore, Wash or New York (but bonus points for NC, Ga, PA, Wisc or MI).
 
There are about 30,000,000 of them. I'll take any. And I'll open it up to any state that is not Cal, Ore, Wash or New York (but bonus points for NC, Ga, PA, Wisc or MI).
Your words…..

Southern white male, heterosexual Christian from the South or Mid-West.

Who are those candidates? Must be dozens of them with huge war chests ready to go.

I’ll gift you Pennsylvania - it’s definitely not Southern and it’s not Midwestern.

The only candidate coming out of PA in 2028 is Jewish, not Christian.
 
Your words…..

Southern white male, heterosexual Christian from the South or Mid-West.

Who are those candidates? Must be dozens of them with huge war chests ready to go.

I’ll gift you Pennsylvania - it’s definitely not Southern and it’s not Midwestern.

The only candidate coming out of PA in 2028 is Jewish, not Christian.
Who saw Donald Trump in 2013? Past is not prologue and we are not forced to pick candidates who are well known in 2025.
 
Who saw Donald Trump in 2013? Past is not prologue and we are not forced to pick candidates who are well known in 2025.
Correct.

Who among Southern/Midwestern “Christian,” heterosexual white males who are likely to run as Democrats have the name recognition Trump had in 2015?

Which ones have been baiting the Democratic base for 7-10 years as Trump baited the MAGA base with claims that Obama isn’t an American?

Jeff Jackson is not catching fire and becoming the 2028 Democratic nominee.

Marc Cuban is 67 TODAY. Jon Stewart is a 62-year-old Jewish Yankee.

Who are the 30 million white Christian males from the South/Mid-West who are candidates for POTUS?
 
Correct.

Who among Southern/Midwestern “Christian,” heterosexual white males who are likely to run as Democrats have the name recognition Trump had in 2015?

Which ones have been baiting the Democratic base for 7-10 years as Trump baited the MAGA base with claims that Obama isn’t an American?

Jeff Jackson is not catching fire and becoming the 2028 Democratic nominee.

Marc Cuban is 67 TODAY. Jon Stewart is a 62-year-old Jewish Yankee.

Who are the 30 million white Christian males from the South/Mid-West who are candidates for POTUS?
Funny you mention Jeff Jackson. NY Times just did a profile of him last week. He’s got over 2 million followers on TilTok and a million on Instagram.

Seems like he’s starting to catch fire a bit. Probably more suited for governor first, but ya never know.

 
Correct.

Who among Southern/Midwestern “Christian,” heterosexual white males who are likely to run as Democrats have the name recognition Trump had in 2015?

Which ones have been baiting the Democratic base for 7-10 years as Trump baited the MAGA base with claims that Obama isn’t an American?

Jeff Jackson is not catching fire and becoming the 2028 Democratic nominee.

Marc Cuban is 67 TODAY. Jon Stewart is a 62-year-old Jewish Yankee.

Who are the 30 million white Christian males from the South/Mid-West who are candidates for POTUS?
Again, past is not prologue. You don't have to replicate Trump's strategy to win in 2028. That said, let's start with a few name politicians:

1. Matt Meyer
2. Josh Green
3. Andy Beshear
4. Michael Bennet
5. John Fetterman
6. Martin Heinrich
7. Chris Murphy
8. Roy Cooper

Any and all of these would be a much smarter pick than Gavin Newsom -- at least in terms of electability. The best candidate is the one with the fewest negatives because that is how general elections are won. 90% of the vote is baked in based on party affiliation. The remaining 10% are usually voting against the other candidate. Obviously, Fetterman carries the most baggage from this list, and would be the first I would jettison, but he would have a much easier time winning than Gavin.
 
Again, past is not prologue. You don't have to replicate Trump's strategy to win in 2028. That said, let's start with a few name politicians:

1. Matt Meyer
2. Josh Green
3. Andy Beshear
4. Michael Bennet
5. John Fetterman
6. Martin Heinrich
7. Chris Murphy
8. Roy Cooper

Any and all of these would be a much smarter pick than Gavin Newsom -- at least in terms of electability. The best candidate is the one with the fewest negatives because that is how general elections are won. 90% of the vote is baked in based on party affiliation. The remaining 10% are usually voting against the other candidate. Obviously, Fetterman carries the most baggage from this list, and would be the first I would jettison, but he would have a much easier time winning than Gavin.
Fetterman wouldn’t have an easier time.

He’s literally persona non grata in the Dem party, and young voters hate him. His approval rating is at ~40% in his own state, partly thanks to Rs supporting him for being a thorn in Dems side.
 
Again, past is not prologue. You don't have to replicate Trump's strategy to win in 2028. That said, let's start with a few name politicians:

1. Matt Meyer
2. Josh Green
3. Andy Beshear
4. Michael Bennet
5. John Fetterman
6. Martin Heinrich
7. Chris Murphy
8. Roy Cooper

Any and all of these would be a much smarter pick than Gavin Newsom -- at least in terms of electability. The best candidate is the one with the fewest negatives because that is how general elections are won. 90% of the vote is baked in based on party affiliation. The remaining 10% are usually voting against the other candidate. Obviously, Fetterman carries the most baggage from this list, and would be the first I would jettison, but he would have a much easier time winning than Gavin.
Fetterman? I respect your thoughts always but damn, that's a head scratcher. Id vote for JD Vance before id vote for Fetterman and I would cut my own dick off before voting for Vance.
 
Funny you mention Jeff Jackson. NY Times just did a profile of him last week. He’s got over 2 million followers on TilTok and a million on Instagram.

Seems like he’s starting to catch fire a bit. Probably more suited for governor first, but ya never know.

He likely can’t run for Governor until 2032…….he’ll be 49……even before he’s able to become Governor, he’s aging out of the “cool, young guy” era.

Cooper has the Senate nomination in 2026 and if he wins, 2032.

Jackson can challenge Ted Budd in 2028; if he does, he gives up the AG spot. If he does, he might get the keynote spot in 2028……and, if he’s Obamaesque, leapfrog everyone for the 2032 POTUS nomination.

Back to my point, just because some male is white, straight, hetero, Midwestern/Southern doesn’t mean he’s a good candidate…..currently we have one…….the guy who was helped immensely by his family name in bumfuck Kentucky.

His family name matters in NC, MI, GA, NV, WI, PA, etc…….no it doesn’t.

If he has “it,” he has “it.” If he doesn’t, being white, male, hetero, “Christian,” Southern/Midwestern won’t help him find “it.”

Al Gore was the anti-it. Ditto for Kerry and Hillary. Oddly, boring and steady played Biden’s way in 2020.

Clinton had “IT.” Obama redefined “IT.”

Oh yeah, I can’t defined “it.”

Unfortunately, for MAGAts, Trump has “IT.” Reagan, despite being a fraud and fake had “it” among Reaganauts.
 
He likely can’t run for Governor until 2032…….he’ll be 49……even before he’s able to become Governor, he’s aging out of the “cool, young guy” era.

Cooper has the Senate nomination in 2026 and if he wins, 2032.

Jackson can challenge Ted Budd in 2028; if he does, he gives up the AG spot. If he does, he might get the keynote spot in 2028……and, if he’s Obamaesque, leapfrog everyone for the 2032 POTUS nomination.

Back to my point, just because some male is white, straight, hetero, Midwestern/Southern doesn’t mean he’s a good candidate…..currently we have one…….the guy who was helped immensely by his family name in bumfuck Kentucky.

His family name matters in NC, MI, GA, NV, WI, PA, etc…….no it doesn’t.

If he has “it,” he has “it.” If he doesn’t, being white, male, hetero, “Christian,” Southern/Midwestern won’t help him find “it.”

Al Gore was the anti-it. Ditto for Kerry and Hillary. Oddly, boring and steady played Biden’s way in 2020.

Clinton had “IT.” Obama redefined “IT.”

Oh yeah, I can’t defined “it.”

Unfortunately, for MAGAts, Trump has “IT.” Reagan, despite being a fraud and fake had “it” among Reaganauts.
You're theory is that independents vote for a candidate. My theory is that independents vote against a candidate.

Obama had "it" but he also benefitted tremendously from anti-Bush sentiment. Gore did not have "it" but neither did GWB. But Gore suffered from Clinton fatigue.

I don't think you need an "it" in an anti-Trump environment. I think you need the safe candidate. If we could replicate 2000 Gore in 2028, he would be an ideal candidate.
 
He likely can’t run for Governor until 2032…….he’ll be 49……even before he’s able to become Governor, he’s aging out of the “cool, young guy” era.

Cooper has the Senate nomination in 2026 and if he wins, 2032.

Jackson can challenge Ted Budd in 2028; if he does, he gives up the AG spot. If he does, he might get the keynote spot in 2028……and, if he’s Obamaesque, leapfrog everyone for the 2032 POTUS nomination.

Back to my point, just because some male is white, straight, hetero, Midwestern/Southern doesn’t mean he’s a good candidate…..currently we have one…….the guy who was helped immensely by his family name in bumfuck Kentucky.

His family name matters in NC, MI, GA, NV, WI, PA, etc…….no it doesn’t.

If he has “it,” he has “it.” If he doesn’t, being white, male, hetero, “Christian,” Southern/Midwestern won’t help him find “it.”

Al Gore was the anti-it. Ditto for Kerry and Hillary. Oddly, boring and steady played Biden’s way in 2020.

Clinton had “IT.” Obama redefined “IT.”

Oh yeah, I can’t defined “it.”

Unfortunately, for MAGAts, Trump has “IT.” Reagan, despite being a fraud and fake had “it” among Reaganauts.
Want to know something crazy? I have the "it" youre referring to. I know that sounds ridiculously narcissistic, but it is true. Its how I make my living. I can have any audience of any size eating out of my hand in 3 minutes. It's just a gift that im lucky to have.

I don't think I could ever run for office though. Im too hot headed and the first time someone went after my spouse or family, id berate them into nonexisentence on national tv.
 
Again, past is not prologue. You don't have to replicate Trump's strategy to win in 2028. That said, let's start with a few name politicians:

1. Matt Meyer
2. Josh Green
3. Andy Beshear
4. Michael Bennet
5. John Fetterman
6. Martin Heinrich
7. Chris Murphy
8. Roy Cooper

Any and all of these would be a much smarter pick than Gavin Newsom -- at least in terms of electability. The best candidate is the one with the fewest negatives because that is how general elections are won. 90% of the vote is baked in based on party affiliation. The remaining 10% are usually voting against the other candidate. Obviously, Fetterman carries the most baggage from this list, and would be the first I would jettison, but he would have a much easier time winning than Gavin.
Let’s see…..40’s/50’s…….Christian…….Southerner/Midwesterner……straight….male…
  • Matt Meyer - Jewish. Governor of Delaware (not a Southern or Midwestern state)
  • Josh Green. Jewish. Governor of Hawaii. How Southern or Midwestern is Hawaii?
  • Andy Beshear. He’s white, sorta Southern and sorta Midwestern. Straight. He’s benefited from a family name that matters NONE outside Kentucky. YAY!
  • Michael Bennet. Colorado Senator. He’d be a 4-term incumbent by 2028. Non-observant Jew. Colorado is not Southern. It’s not Midwestern.
  • John Fetterman? GTFOOH!
  • Martin Heinrich. Hey! He’s a Lutheran! He’s a Democrat in NEW MEXICO. He’s never won more than 55%+ in a General Election. In NEW MEXICO. New Mexico is where in the Midwest or South?
  • Chris Murphy. Connecticut. He’s a non-observant “Christian.” Connecticut is pretty damn Yankee.
  • Roy Cooper. Roy is white bread personified and unknown to 80-90-95% of Democrats. Cooper is 67-68 years-old TODAY.
Seriously, that’s your list of heterosexual, “Christian,” white males from the South/Midwest who are in their 40’s/50’s?
 
You're theory is that independents vote for a candidate. My theory is that independents vote against a candidate.

Obama had "it" but he also benefitted tremendously from anti-Bush sentiment. Gore did not have "it" but neither did GWB. But Gore suffered from Clinton fatigue.

I don't think you need an "it" in an anti-Trump environment. I think you need the safe candidate. If we could replicate 2000 Gore in 2028, he would be an ideal candidate.
You’re making a HUGE ASSUMPTION in stating that I think Independents “vote for a candidate.”

My view is that “Independents” are full of shit and vote for whoever they think will benefit themselves. It’s irrational and arbitrary and they’ve been doing so for decades. Promise “Independents” tax-cuts and they’re yours….even if they don’t see the tax-cuts.
 
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