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GOP slouches into the Crazy -IMMIGRATION | Trump Firehose of anti-immigrant posts and rhetoric

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nycfan said:

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The Chandra Law Firm says the nonprofit used a state statute allowing private citizens to "file an affidavit charging the offense committed."

The following charges were filed:

  • Disrupting public service — by causing widespread bomb and other threats that resulted in massive disruptions to the public services in Springfield, Ohio;
  • Making false alarms — by knowingly causing alarm in the Springfield community by continuing to repeat lies that state and local officials have said were false;
  • Committing telecommunications harassment — by spreading claims they know to be false during the presidential debate, campaign rallies, nationally televised interviews, and social media;
  • Committing aggravated menacing in violation — by knowingly making intimidating statements with the intent to abuse, threaten, or harass the recipients, including Trump’s threat to deport immigrants who are here legally to Venezuela, a land they have never known;
  • Committing aggravated menacing — by knowingly causing others to falsely believe that members of Springfield's Haitian community would cause serious physical harm to the person or property of others in Springfield; and
  • Violating the prohibition against complicity — by conspiring with one another and spreading vicious lies that caused innocent parties to be parties to their various crimes.
The charges were filed in Clark County Municipal Court. …”

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Apparently at minimum the Court will be required to hold a hearing to decide how to handle the charges.
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While I understand the thought process here, I don't think these charges have any real chance of success and will likely do more harm than good.
 
SnoopRob said:
While I understand the thought process here, I don't think these charges have any real chance of success and will likely do more harm than good.
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Depends how quickly they are dispensed with and forgotten, I guess. But, yeah, sadly more fodder for Trump/Vance slander.
 


Weapons the military hasn’t even heard of?

OTOH, maybe an influx of Venezuelans would help the Rockies?
 
First they came for the Haitians, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Haitian.

Then they came for the Jamaicans, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jamaican.

www.rawstory.com

'God help us': Springfield Jamaicans mistaken for Haitians by 'aggressive' white woman

Hate against Haitians sparked by Republican running mates Donald Trump and J.D. Vance spilled over to the Jamaican community in Springfield, Ohio, this week.In a post on Facebook, the Jamaican Patty Co. said an employee was confronted by an angry white woman who thought she was addressing...
www.rawstory.com www.rawstory.com
 
This hatred towards the Haitians reminds me of a little bit of history I’m sure none of these people are aware of. If it was not for the successful Haitian revolt against French rule, we never would have gotten the Louisiana Purchase when we did. Napoleon knew he needed a base in the Caribbean to protect the approach to New Orleans. Without Haiti there were no other options and the French position in New Orleans became untenable. This made selling the territory the best option for him. So, we owe that little country in the Caribbean a great debt of gratitude.
 
nycfan said:
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Watching Master Chef, one of the finalists was Haitian, she didn't once try to cook anyone's pet.

In the link I posted above, they interviewed a couple of people from Springfield. One of them said "The people complaining about the Haitians don't live in Springfield, they come here to complain." (Maybe not exact quote, it's from memory)
 
nycfan said:
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As I thought when all this started in Springfield, it's now painfully obvious that Trump's campaign staff has decided that their best (and maybe only) chance to win the election is to whip up a massive nativist fright among whites (and maybe some native-born minority voters) over darker-skinned immigrants "invading" and "overwhelming" and simply "taking over" small towns and cities all over the USA. They are likely hoping that such a strategy will drive up rural, exurban, and small city (like Springfield) voting to record levels and maybe allow them to eke out a victory in key swing states. The "economy is awful" issue probably isn't working as much as they would like, given that the economy is now booming, the stock market is at record highs, and inflation is finally under control. And with Biden gone their planned attacks on his age and senility are out the window.

So let's return to playing up the xenophobia and fear of the "other" and roll with that. By the time Trump and Vance are done every American state will be under siege and on the verge of being completely destroyed by immigrants from the Caribbean and Latin America. Of course it's a disgrace and flat-out racist, and of course they simply don't care. And if some immigrants end up getting hurt or even killed with this paranoia they're whipping up, who cares? They certainly won't.
 
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Mulberry Heel said:
As I thought when all this started in Springfield, it's now painfully obvious that Trump's campaign staff has decided that their best (and maybe only) chance to win the election is to whip up a massive nativist fright among whites (and maybe some native-born minority voters) over darker-skinned immigrants "invading" and "overwhelming" and simply "taking over" small towns and cities all over the USA. They are likely hoping that such a strategy will drive up rural, exurban, and small city (like Springfield) voting to record levels and maybe allow them to eke out a victory in key swing states. The "economy is awful" issue probably isn't working as much as they would like, given that the economy is now booming, the stock market is at record highs, and inflation has finally gotten under control. And with Biden gone their planned attacks on his age and senility are out the window. So let's return to playing up the xenophobia and fear of the "other" and roll with that. By the time Trump and Vance are done every American state will be under siege and on the verge of being completely destroyed by immigrants from the Caribbean and Latin America. Of course it's a disgrace and flat-out racist, and of course they simply don't care. And if some immigrants end up getting hurt or even killed with this paranoia they're whipping up, who cares? They certainly won't.
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The “excite the base” strategy has been clear since Trump selected Vance as his VP.

But you’re correct this is a major point of it.
 
SnoopRob said:
The “excite the base” strategy has been clear since Trump selected Vance as his VP..

But you’re correct this is a major point of it.
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True, but I doubt that Vance is exciting anybody, including the base. Drumming up hysteria over an immigrant "invasion" just might.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
As I thought when all this started in Springfield, it's now painfully obvious that Trump's campaign staff has decided that their best (and maybe only) chance to win the election is to whip up a massive nativist fright among whites (and maybe some native-born minority voters) over darker-skinned immigrants "invading" and "overwhelming" and simply "taking over" small towns and cities all over the USA. They are likely hoping that such a strategy will drive up rural, exurban, and small city (like Springfield) voting to record levels and maybe allow them to eke out a victory in key swing states. The "economy is awful" issue probably isn't working as much as they would like, given that the economy is now booming, the stock market is at record highs, and inflation is finally under control. And with Biden gone their planned attacks on his age and senility are out the window.

So let's return to playing up the xenophobia and fear of the "other" and roll with that. By the time Trump and Vance are done every American state will be under siege and on the verge of being completely destroyed by immigrants from the Caribbean and Latin America. Of course it's a disgrace and flat-out racist, and of course they simply don't care. And if some immigrants end up getting hurt or even killed with this paranoia they're whipping up, who cares? They certainly won't.
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It's basically the whole GOP strategy now. Look at the down ballot races. The commercials are all immigrants, soft on crime, etc. with a few the 'economy sucks' thrown in as well.
 
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