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I was today’s years old when I realized Chancellor Roberts is Cokie Roberts of NPR and PBS fame’s little boy? How the hell does that happen?
 
Aside from going to d00k, he went to elite private schools in DC during the height of Reagan’s “Morning in America” bullshit.

The Boggs Family (Hale and Lindy were Cokie’s parents) weren’t exactly liberal. Hale had a strange record; but, in the ‘50’s and early-mid ‘60’s, Hale opposed Civil Rights and desegregation. Then, he kinda flipped on civil rights.

Cokie Roberts had a brother - Tommy Boggs. Cokie and her family were exceptionally well-off. And, influential. Tommy was RICH. And, POWERFUL. Why? He was one of DC’s most influential and powerful lobbyists.

I’d put the Boggs family as being comparable to the Gore family (remember, in 1988, Al Gore ran as a “conservative” Democrat, big in the “Democratic Leadership Council”). Al wasn’t a progressive until after he lost in 2000.

Lee Roberts is a child of the Reagan era and his uncle’s wealth and power……and, the Boggs/Roberts Family certainly wasn’t leftist…….it wasn’t even remotely Liberal.

So, young Lee Roberts became a Reaganaut.
 
A faculty friend, full professor, hard science, runs a cross-departmental program……been awarded numerous teaching awards…….brings in several million $$$ a year in grant money to study SCIENCE…..

His grant money was cut by the Trump Administration. He and others closely examined their grant proposal……they found their “egregious” error - it was a wording “error” - and, they fixed it. The grant money came through.
 
Ramrouser said:
This move will save the non revenue sports and keep them at a high level of excellence. We simply have to participate in big league football in order to generate the revenue to fuel our 26 other sports. It’s only a matter of time before the P2 conferences start stealing our soccer/lacrosse etc players and coaches if we don’t gain membership in one of those two conferences as the $$ disparity grows larger every year.
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We didn't have to do anything with football to gain entry to those leagues. Either one would take us now and itnwouldjt matter what we did with football.
 
Zoo_View said:
A faculty friend, full professor, hard science, runs a cross-departmental program……been awarded numerous teaching awards…….brings in several million $$$ a year in grant money to study SCIENCE…..

His grant money was cut by the Trump Administration. He and others closely examined their grant proposal……they found their “egregious” error - it was a wording “error” - and, they fixed it. The grant money came through.
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Likely eliminated DEI BS from grant. I’m glad the grant money came through.
 
Zoo_View said:
Aside from going to d00k, he went to elite private schools in DC during the height of Reagan’s “Morning in America” bullshit.

The Boggs Family (Hale and Lindy were Cokie’s parents) weren’t exactly liberal. Hale had a strange record; but, in the ‘50’s and early-mid ‘60’s, Hale opposed Civil Rights and desegregation. Then, he kinda flipped on civil rights.

Cokie Roberts had a brother - Tommy Boggs. Cokie and her family were exceptionally well-off. And, influential. Tommy was RICH. And, POWERFUL. Why? He was one of DC’s most influential and powerful lobbyists.

I’d put the Boggs family as being comparable to the Gore family (remember, in 1988, Al Gore ran as a “conservative” Democrat, big in the “Democratic Leadership Council”). Al wasn’t a progressive until after he lost in 2000.

Lee Roberts is a child of the Reagan era and his uncle’s wealth and power……and, the Boggs/Roberts Family certainly wasn’t leftist…….it wasn’t even remotely Liberal.

So, young Lee Roberts became a Reaganaut.
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Art Poper
 
Centerpiece said:
Burr always nails it. He should be President. But he's too smart for that shit...
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He nailed my feelings about this whole thing. Poked a little fun at UNC football and Belichick being washed up, but also gave nice pushback to Eisen and all of the people that are so eager to declare this a disaster after only one game.
 
Peppers49 said:
He nailed my feelings about this whole thing. Poked a little fun at UNC football and Belichick being washed up, but also gave nice pushback to Eisen and all of the people that are so eager to declare this a disaster after only one game.
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I agree, I thought that was a very fair assessment. Even for as critical as I am of the Belichick hire and even though I don’t really think it’s going to be all that successful in the long run of majorly elevating UNC Football from our perpetually mediocre state, even I fully acknowledge that anyone ready to declare this thing a complete disaster after game one is overreacting. Even a washed up Bill Belichick is lightyears better than, say, John Bunting or Larry Fedora or probably Mack Brown 2.0.
 
Peppers49 said:
He nailed my feelings about this whole thing. Poked a little fun at UNC football and Belichick being washed up, but also gave nice pushback to Eisen and all of the people that are so eager to declare this a disaster after only one game.
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Yep. Listing some of the all time great NFL players playing with a new team late in their careers was hilarious.

The coaching hire that has come to mind several times since the hiring of BB is when Washington brought Joe Gibbs back. There was so much excitement around it. He was fine but they were a shell of their former selves in the 80s. People past their primes deliver results consistent with someone past their prime.
 
Peppers49 said:
He nailed my feelings about this whole thing. Poked a little fun at UNC football and Belichick being washed up, but also gave nice pushback to Eisen and all of the people that are so eager to declare this a disaster after only one game.
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I don't think he was really pushing back on it being declared a disaster because he thinks Belichick will turn it around. He compared Belichick at UNC to Joe Namath on the Rams, Emmitt Smith on the Cardinals, etc. He's not making those comparisons to say that Belichck will be successful at UNC. H's basically predicting Belichick will fail, he's just saying everyone should leave him alone and let him enjoy his "retirement" as UNC coach. (I.e. - the exact scenario many of us have been worried about.)
 
CFordUNC said:
I agree, I thought that was a very fair assessment. Even for as critical as I am of the Belichick hire and even though I don’t really think it’s going to be all that successful in the long run of majorly elevating UNC Football from our perpetually mediocre state, even I fully acknowledge that anyone ready to declare this thing a complete disaster after game one is overreacting. Even a washed up Bill Belichick is lightyears better than, say, John Bunting or Larry Fedora or probably Mack Brown 2.0.
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For all the lows Fedora took us to the ACC title game against Clemson, a competitive game that might have gotten us in the 4-team playoff if we had won it (and if the current playoff system had been around then, we likely would have been in it). If Belichick does that he will have exceeded my expectations.
 
rodoheel said:
For all the lows Fedora took us to the ACC title game against Clemson, a competitive game that might have gotten us in the 4-team playoff if we had won it (and if the current playoff system had been around then, we likely would have been in it). If Belichick does that he will have exceeded my expectations.
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Fantastic point.
 
rodoheel said:
For all the lows Fedora took us to the ACC title game against Clemson, a competitive game that might have gotten us in the 4-team playoff if we had won it (and if the current playoff system had been around then, we likely would have been in it). If Belichick does that he will have exceeded my expectations.
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I don't think we'd have made the 4-team CFP if we'd have beaten Clemson that year, we were just too far from the top of the CFP list to have been included. I do think we would have made a 12-team CFP that year (had it existed), even after losing to Clemson.

The Fedora era was interesting and largely (at least moderately) successful, until those last 2 terrible years.
 
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