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uncgriff said:
I know in my heart it's too soon for this but I wonder how many of those boot strapping small government trump supporters in Western Carolina will refuse help from Biden and Harris.
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Don't hold your breath waiting for people to realize their hypocrisy. Most conservatives think when they need help the government is absolutely responsible for helping them, but when people they don't identify with (especially urban minorities) need help, it's their own fault and not a cent of "their tax dollars" should go to help those people. They don't see those sentiments as inconsistent at all and apparently nothing can convince them.
 
Turd Ferguson said:
Listening to the scanner feed for Rutherford County and they are calls for numerous water rescues.
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Yeah, the Facebook page for Rutherford County Emergency Services has people asking for alternate routes for evacuation, saying they are trapped where they are due to roads being out, downed trees, etc.
 
superrific said:
Is this an informed estimate or just pulled out of your you-know? Because 50 miles is a long distance. I have trouble believing the damage would be catastrophic that far downstream, but I'm just pulling that out of my you-know.
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The flooding would continue that far - it's instantaneous rapid rise flooding in a breach. The dissipation takes a long time, but you are dealing with an amount of water that is never seen with normalcy in the flood zone. Are homes being washed away 50 mi? No. But there would be extensive damage that far with floods in homes not even in the Zone AE or even the 500 year flood plain. Have I studied the Broad River extensively for flood studies and dam breach zones? No. Have I designed FEMA floodplains for dam breach zones with a decade in engineering (even though I abandoned that field 15 years ago)? Yeah. So I am absolutely roughly estimated, yes. Do I consider it absolutely pulled out of my butt? No.
 
superrific said:
I was being silly/sarcastic. IDK, weird mood today. I've tried some humor here and elsewhere and it has failed. This was a particularly lackluster attempt, though.
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You had mentioned I-74 earlier in the thread, that's a long way away so I genuinely thought you might be confused about the overall location.
 
aGDevil2k said:
The flooding would continue that far - it's instantaneous rapid rise flooding in a breach. The dissipation takes a long time, but you are dealing with an amount of water that is never seen with normalcy in the flood zone. Are homes being washed away 50 mi? No. But there would be extensive damage that far with floods in homes not even in the Zone AE or even the 500 year flood plain. Have I studied the Broad River extensively for flood studies and dam breach zones? No. Have I designed FEMA floodplains for dam breach zones with a decade in engineering (even though I abandoned that field 15 years ago)? Yeah. So I am absolutely roughly estimated, yes. Do I consider it absolutely pulled out of my butt? No.
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OK, I'll go with "informed opinion." I also understand that it's a rough estimate. If the flooding goes only 35 miles, you won't have been wrong. Just imprecise.

Anyway, thanks. Now I know. I suspect I was overestimating the amount of land the water can spread over. My main experience with floods was the major flood of 93 in the Midwest, as I was doing some work in Illinois and Missouri. So I'm envisioning a field covered with water in every direction, which is probably not what a flood looks like in the foothills. The water is more channeled and thus more concentrated.
 
Since we have someone here who knows about floods from an engineering perspective, are those lanes "washed away" in the sense that the water caused the bridge to collapse, or was there a rock slide that took out the road?
 
nycfan said:


TN/VA corner border
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You think Unicoi County has the resources to handle tha ton it's own?

Project 25: "The bloated DHS bureaucracy and budget, along with the wrong priorities, provide real opportunities for a conservative Administration to cut billions in spending and limit government’s role in Americans’ lives. These opportunities include privatizing TSA screening and the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) National Flood Insurance Program, reforming FEMA emergency spending to shift the majority of preparedness and response costs to states and localities instead of the federal government, eliminating most of DHS’s grant pro- grams, and removing all unions in the department for national security purposes."
 
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