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I'm not trying to demonize anyone. I recognize that many illegals are hardworking, tax paying people who contribute to society. BUT, we can't incentivize illegal crossings by allowing illegals to stay here just because they're "good people" else we'll never fully get a handle on the border. Biden went waaay to far in opening the border and the price is now being paid. I do think we should prioritize deportations. Criminals and gang bangers go first; recent arrivals who took advantage of Biden's open border and who are simply being warehoused here go next; finally the ones who are not productive and on welfare go next.

Once that's completed; and we have 100% border security; then I'm open to amnesty for the Dreamers and productive noncitizens.

I've never commented on Fauci so I don't know where you're coming from on that assertion.
"100% border security"

Will Ferrell Lol GIF
 
Stay tuned. Kash Patel has recently declassified documents and shared with senators which "detail alarming allegations" about potential Chinese interference in the 2020 election. "Specifically, these include allegations of plans from the CCP to manufacture fake driver's licenses and ship them into the US for the purpose of facilitating fraudulent mail-in ballots - allegations which, wile substantiated, were abruptly recalled and never discussed to the public" by Ray's FBI.
The matter is under further investigation and Senator Grassley is requesting additional information. Newsweek, June 17, 2025.

It's not too far a stretch to see how these fake driver's licenses can be given to illegals which would allow them to register to vote.
The Virginian Lol GIF by GritTV
 
I'm not trying to demonize anyone. I recognize that many illegals are hardworking, tax paying people who contribute to society. BUT, we can't incentivize illegal crossings by allowing illegals to stay here just because they're "good people" else we'll never fully get a handle on the border. Biden went waaay to far in opening the border and the price is now being paid. I do think we should prioritize deportations. Criminals and gang bangers go first; recent arrivals who took advantage of Biden's open border and who are simply being warehoused here go next; finally the ones who are not productive and on welfare go next.

Once that's completed; and we have 100% border security; then I'm open to amnesty for the Dreamers and productive noncitizens.

I've never commented on Fauci so I don't know where you're coming from on that assertion.
You’re still clearly missing my point—and you’re reverting back to dumb anti-immigrant MAGA talking points.

Look, here’s the deal: My ex, her organization, and the 200 other org that recently got those threatening letters from Congress aren’t “incentivizing” anything.

We have an obligation under federal immigration law to allow immigrants to plead their case for asylum. Without legal representation, most people applying for asylum don’t stand a chance.

My ex, her organization, and others like it generally take clients that have been through some of the most horrible things you can possibly imagine. We’re talking gang-raped 8 year-old girls; mothers who’ve seen their husbands and sons murdered and dismembered for refusing to cooperate with gangs; indigenous farmers whose entire villages were killed by gang wars; lgbtq folks who were abused or tortured by gangs. Things like that.

Don’t get me wrong—not all of these clients are angels. Some trafficked drugs (because they were forced to become mules), some were in gangs at one point and then tried to get out, some had other issues.

All this being said, my ex, her organization, and others like it are abiding by the law to assist these individuals in escaping a bad situation and “doing it the right way” to become a legal US resident.

My ex, her organization, and others like it are not “incentivizing” anything. Nor are they working against the US government to allow criminals into the US. Nor are they doing anything illegal at all.

And yet they’re being threatened by Trump’s admin with insinuations that they’re committing crimes against the US and may face legal repercussions.


Do you understand how fucked up that is? Do you understand what a dangerous precedent it sets to demonize my ex, her organization, and others like it by insinuating that they are criminals and could be prosecuted—despite the fact that they’ve done nothing illegal?
 
You’re still clearly missing my point—and you’re reverting back to dumb anti-immigrant MAGA talking points.

Look, here’s the deal: My ex, her organization, and the 200 other org that recently got those threatening letters from Congress aren’t “incentivizing” anything.

We have an obligation under federal immigration law to allow immigrants to plead their case for asylum. Without legal representation, most people applying for asylum don’t stand a chance.

My ex, her organization, and others like it generally take clients that have been through some of the most horrible things you can possibly imagine. We’re talking gang-raped 8 year-old girls; mothers who’ve seen their husbands and sons murdered and dismembered for refusing to cooperate with gangs; indigenous farmers whose entire villages were killed by gang wars; lgbtq folks who were abused or tortured by gangs. Things like that.

Don’t get me wrong—not all of these clients are angels. Some trafficked drugs (because they were forced to become mules), some were in gangs at one point and then tried to get out, some had other issues.

All this being said, my ex, her organization, and others like it are abiding by the law to assist these individuals in escaping a bad situation and “doing it the right way” to become a legal US resident.

My ex, her organization, and others like it are not “incentivizing” anything. Nor are they working against the US government to allow criminals into the US. Nor are they doing anything illegal at all.

And yet they’re being threatened by Trump’s admin with insinuations that they’re committing crimes against the US and may face legal repercussions.


Do you understand how fucked up that is? Do you understand what a dangerous precedent it sets to demonize my ex, her organization, and others like it by insinuating that they are criminals and could be prosecuted—despite the fact that they’ve done nothing illegal?
 
You’re still clearly missing my point—and you’re reverting back to dumb anti-immigrant MAGA talking points.

Look, here’s the deal: My ex, her organization, and the 200 other org that recently got those threatening letters from Congress aren’t “incentivizing” anything.

We have an obligation under federal immigration law to allow immigrants to plead their case for asylum. Without legal representation, most people applying for asylum don’t stand a chance.

My ex, her organization, and others like it generally take clients that have been through some of the most horrible things you can possibly imagine. We’re talking gang-raped 8 year-old girls; mothers who’ve seen their husbands and sons murdered and dismembered for refusing to cooperate with gangs; indigenous farmers whose entire villages were killed by gang wars; lgbtq folks who were abused or tortured by gangs. Things like that.

Don’t get me wrong—not all of these clients are angels. Some trafficked drugs (because they were forced to become mules), some were in gangs at one point and then tried to get out, some had other issues.

All this being said, my ex, her organization, and others like it are abiding by the law to assist these individuals in escaping a bad situation and “doing it the right way” to become a legal US resident.

My ex, her organization, and others like it are not “incentivizing” anything. Nor are they working against the US government to allow criminals into the US. Nor are they doing anything illegal at all.

And yet they’re being threatened by Trump’s admin with insinuations that they’re committing crimes against the US and may face legal repercussions.


Do you understand how fucked up that is? Do you understand what a dangerous precedent it sets to demonize my ex, her organization, and others like it by insinuating that they are criminals and could be prosecuted—despite the fact that they’ve done nothing illegal?
My post really wasn't directed against your ex's organization. Obviously, I don't know anything about it or the work it does. Sounds like the purpose is to help specific hardship cases. I was speaking more broadly about immigration organizations which support open borders and lobbied the Biden Administration for policies in support of that agenda.
 
My post really wasn't directed against your ex's organization. Obviously, I don't know anything about it or the work it does. Sounds like the purpose is to help specific hardship cases. I was speaking more broadly about immigration organizations which support open borders and lobbied the Biden Administration for policies in support of that agenda.
Ah, the old, "I wasn't insulting YOU, just everyone who is like you in ways relevant to this discussion. But not you." bullshit.
 
Stay tuned. Kash Patel has recently declassified documents and shared with senators which "detail alarming allegations" about potential Chinese interference in the 2020 election. "Specifically, these include allegations of plans from the CCP to manufacture fake driver's licenses and ship them into the US for the purpose of facilitating fraudulent mail-in ballots - allegations which, while substantiated, were abruptly recalled and never discussed to the public" by Ray's FBI.
The matter is under further investigation and Senator Grassley is requesting additional information. Newsweek, June 17, 2025.

It's not too far a stretch to see how these fake driver's licenses can be given to illegals which would allow them to register to vote.
Are you planning to answer my question at some point or continue to dodge? Have you ever conducted a deposition? Do you allow such rambling to occur without answering the question posed?

I have asked repeatedly what YOU think about the 2020 election.
 
My post really wasn't directed against your ex's organization. Obviously, I don't know anything about it or the work it does. Sounds like the purpose is to help specific hardship cases. I was speaking more broadly about immigration organizations which support open borders and lobbied the Biden Administration for policies in support of that agenda.

I mean, can you not see how dumb this post sounds?

You’re saying you don’t know shit about what these organizations do—and then you pivot to baselessly accuse some nameless organizations of “supporting open borders.”

Seriously, man. How fucking dumb can you be?

And it shows that you still don’t get my point. I’ll lay it out very simply once more:

The type of stupidity, baseless fear-mongering, and propagandizing that you’ve engaged in throughout this thread has led us to a point where innocent American citizens (like my ex and others in her field) are being accused of crimes against the US.

Do you understand that? Is that simple enough for you to grasp?

Simple yes or no will do.

No need to post more drivel about open borders and Biden and so forth. The whole purpose of this thread (as I envisioned it, at least) is to discuss the personal impacts of Trump’s presidency, not to engage in a back-and-forth about immigration.

ETA: @Ramrouser , care to follow up here?
 
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Are you planning to answer my question at some point or continue to dodge? Have you ever conducted a deposition? Do you allow such rambling to occur without answering the question posed?

I have asked repeatedly what YOU think about the 2020 election.
It's over.

Objection: "Asked and answered:" I've repeatedly stated on this Board that I would have voted to certify the election on Dec 15th - with all appeals having been exhausted. I believe COVID era loosing of voting practices and procedures opened up the possibility for fraud, particularly for mail in ballots. 2008 Obama (the "Chosen One") got 69.5M votes; in 2012 he got 65.9M votes; Hillary in 2016 65.8M; Kamala in 2024 74M. But Biden - in -the - basement in 2020, hardly an inspiring candidate received 81.3M votes! Shazaam. He's the greatest campaigner in history.

I also believe that the media and the Biden Admin suppressed the Hunter laptop story on the eve of the election. But Biden won and served as the duly elected President.

Next question.
 
It's over.

Objection: "Asked and answered:" I've repeatedly stated on this Board that I would have voted to certify the election on Dec 15th - with all appeals having been exhausted. I believe COVID era loosing of voting practices and procedures opened up the possibility for fraud, particularly for mail in ballots. 2008 Obama (the "Chosen One") got 69.5M votes; in 2012 he got 65.9M votes; Hillary in 2016 65.8M; Kamala in 2024 74M. But Biden - in -the - basement in 2020, hardly an inspiring candidate received 81.3M votes! Shazaam. He's the greatest campaigner in history.

I also believe that the media and the Biden Admin suppressed the Hunter laptop story on the eve of the election. But Biden won and served as the duly elected President.

Next question.
A couple things.

1. You seem to forget how hated Trump was at the end of his first term.
2. Biden didn't need to campaign much. It was either him or the guy who failed to protect us from a pandemic, which lead to 1,000,000 Americans dying prematurely.
3. You also forgot who was in an actual basement. Let me remind you.

4. Your heartless ass never responded about my friend who would be killed if ICE deported her. I assumed as much. Because that's how you people are. But I'm just bringing it up for reference to prove how you are a coward.

And 5. What did you expect to find in Hunter Biden's laptop again? Besides naked pictures of him?
 
It's over.

Objection: "Asked and answered:" I've repeatedly stated on this Board that I would have voted to certify the election on Dec 15th - with all appeals having been exhausted. I believe COVID era loosing of voting practices and procedures opened up the possibility for fraud, particularly for mail in ballots. 2008 Obama (the "Chosen One") got 69.5M votes; in 2012 he got 65.9M votes; Hillary in 2016 65.8M; Kamala in 2024 74M. But Biden - in -the - basement in 2020, hardly an inspiring candidate received 81.3M votes! Shazaam. He's the greatest campaigner in history.

I also believe that the media and the Biden Admin suppressed the Hunter laptop story on the eve of the election. But Biden won and served as the duly elected President.

Next question.
“…….the Biden Administration suppressed the Hunter Biden laptop story on the eve of the election.”

On the eve of which election? The 2020 election? On Nov. 3, 2020.

When was Biden sworn into office?
 
I mean, can you not see how dumb this post sounds?

You’re saying you don’t know shit about what these organizations do—and then you pivot to baselessly accuse some nameless organizations of “supporting open borders.”

Seriously, man. How fucking dumb can you be?

And it shows that you still don’t get my point. I’ll lay it out very simply once more:

The type of stupidity, baseless fear-mongering, and propagandizing that you’ve engaged in throughout this thread has led us to a point where innocent American citizens (like my ex and others in her field) are being accused of crimes against the US.

Do you understand that? Is that simple enough for you to grasp?

Simple yes or no will do.

No need to post more drivel about open borders and Biden and so forth. The whole purpose of this thread (as I envisioned it, at least) is to discuss the personal impacts of Trump’s presidency, not to engage in a back-and-forth about immigration.

ETA: @Ramrouser , care to follow up here?
@Ramrouser , care to follow up here?
 
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I don't know but I sure like having reasonable but thorough safeguards in place to ensure only legal votes are cast. Proof of identification, duplicate paper ballots, no mass mailings of ballots and hard deadlines for submitting ballots. Also, move the drop boxes INSIDE voting locations.
Those are not reasonable if the threat they are addressing doesn't exist.

All of those "safeguards" are really veiled attempts to suppress voted.

We should do like some other countries and make voting mandatory as well as open voting for the entire week and require companies to provide at least one day off that week to vote.
 
According to a September 29, 2024 BBC Article (I use BBC because I know you won't accept any conservative sources):

"Crossings did reach record levels under President Biden..."

"Since January 2021, when Joe Biden came to office, there have been more than 10 million encounters - about 8 million came over the southwest land border with Mexico." "Under the Trump administration, there were 2.4 million encounters on this border."

Also, the US House Committee on Oversight and Accountability and the House Committee on Homeland Security report that over 1.7 million KNOWN gotaways - illegal immigrants who have evaded Border Patrol - are now living in the interior of the US without documentation and without having undergone any vetting by immigration officials.

So if you take the 8-10M entries + 1.7M known gotaways + X amount of unknown gotaways you can get to a figure approaching 15M under Biden.
Ok.

Now what policy has trump introduced to actually solve the problem?
 
Non-citizens have not voted to any significant level since the early 20th century in some places but even then never voted in federal contests.



"Research by the Brennan Center for Justice in 2017 looked at 42 jurisdictions in the 2016 election, and reported that of 23.5 million votes cast, election officials only found about 30 cases of potential noncitizen voting that they referred for prosecution or further investigation.

More recent investigations also haven’t shown proof of widespread noncitizen voting. A Georgia audit of its voter rolls conducted this year found fewer than 2,000 instances of noncitizens attempting to register to vote over the last 25 years, none of which succeeded. Millions of new Georgia voters registered during that time period.

Federal law doesn’t stop states or municipalities from granting noncitizens the right to vote in local races — and a handful have, including 11 towns in Maryland and two in Vermont. New York City this year passed a law that would allow legally documented noncitizens and “Dreamers” to vote for mayor and other elected officials, but a judge blocked the move in June."

Just stop with the BULLSHIT claim that non-citizens are voting.
Thank you.

They don't care about immigrants voting, they just use the fear to try to stop Americans that they don't agree with from voting.
 
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