Hubert Davis Catch-all

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CFordUNC said:
Maybe I'm looking at this with Carolina blue tinted lenses but I can't imagine that this coaching search results in us hiring someone "lower" down the list than, say, a TJ Otzelberger- which would be an absolutely spectacular hire. This isn't Carolina football where we apparently feel that we can only hire Conference USA coaches or has-been geriatrics who are out of work and unhirable by anyone but us. I don't think that we'll land Brad Stevens, Todd Golden, Dan Hurley, or Nate Oats, for a variety of reasons, but there's no way that a guy like TJO wouldn't walk to Chapel Hill from Ames, IA for this job. And he'd be a phenomenal hire, IMO- but in the unlikely event he isn't, we'll at least have tried something radically different than the same old same old that UNC has done for 7 decades.
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This would be a home run borderline grand slam hire imo
 
KevinStrickland said:
This would be a home run borderline grand slam hire imo
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The guys on Field of 68 said that TJO would not do well in the fishbowl environment of UNC and don’t see him as a personality fit for the job.

Of course, Hubert didn’t really do well in the fishbowl environment either.
 
Calheel said:
The guys on Field of 68 said that TJO would not do well in the fishbowl environment of UNC and don’t see him as a personality fit for the job.

Of course, Hubert didn’t really do well in the fishbowl environment either.
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I don’t think anyone really knows how someone will handle that environment until they do it. So I put little stock in that.

I’d love TJO. Love his style, love his results, love his personality. No one is a sure thing but I’d be very surprised if we hire him and he isnt successful.
 
Calheel said:
Of course, Hubert didn’t really do well in the fishbowl environment either.
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How so? He has drawn boundaries with the press and butted heads with them occasionally, but never anything major that I can recall. Nor any issues in the community, etc.

So in what ways did he not do well in the fishbowl environment? Which as I’m sure you know, implies he was ill-suited to handle the microscope and media/alumni pressure. NIL issues, roster construction, X/O’s… all have little to nothing to do with any fishbowl failures. So I must be missing something.
 
duluoz said:
How so? He has drawn boundaries with the press and butted heads with them occasionally, but never anything major that I can recall. Nor any issues in the community, etc.

So in what ways did he not do well in the fishbowl environment? Which as I’m sure you know, implies he was ill-suited to handle the microscope and media/alumni pressure. NIL issues, roster construction, X/O’s… all have little to nothing to do with any fishbowl failures. So I must be missing something.
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He meant he didn't win enough is my guess.
 
CFordUNC said:
Maybe I'm looking at this with Carolina blue tinted lenses but I can't imagine that this coaching search results in us hiring someone "lower" down the list than, say, a TJ Otzelberger- which would be an absolutely spectacular hire. This isn't Carolina football where we apparently feel that we can only hire Conference USA coaches or has-been geriatrics who are out of work and unhirable by anyone but us. I don't think that we'll land Brad Stevens, Todd Golden, Dan Hurley, or Nate Oats, for a variety of reasons, but there's no way that a guy like TJO wouldn't walk to Chapel Hill from Ames, IA for this job. And he'd be a phenomenal hire, IMO- but in the unlikely event he isn't, we'll at least have tried something radically different than the same old same old that UNC has done for 7 decades.
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It's been a pretty good 7 decades.
 
duluoz said:
How so? He has drawn boundaries with the press and butted heads with them occasionally, but never anything major that I can recall. Nor any issues in the community, etc.

So in what ways did he not do well in the fishbowl environment? Which as I’m sure you know, implies he was ill-suited to handle the microscope and media/alumni pressure. NIL issues, roster construction, X/O’s… all have little to nothing to do with any fishbowl failures. So I must be missing something.
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he's either about to resign or be fired from a job with a fishbowl environment.

that kinda indicates that he didn't do well in a fishbowl environment.

as for media/press/public sentiment specifically, he wasn't a disaster but he didn't exactly thrive, either.

he made some postgame comments over the years that were a bit head-scratching, the thing where he declared that styles and dunn would be all time UNC greats was a totally avoidable snafu, earlier this season after the failtastic CA road trip he made some tone-deaf comments and neither he nor the university covered themselves in glory with the zayden high situation.
 
eternalheel said:
^isn't this guy a d00kie -- that crashed out on unc fans, on a unc board? Now y'all are backslapping it?


Classic loser 2 faced faction of the base.

Ffs
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I've always liked Kevin. Never forgot he was a Duke fan and did read the fable of the scorpion and the frog but that doesn't much matter to me.
 
duluoz said:
How so? He has drawn boundaries with the press and butted heads with them occasionally, but never anything major that I can recall. Nor any issues in the community, etc.

So in what ways did he not do well in the fishbowl environment? Which as I’m sure you know, implies he was ill-suited to handle the microscope and media/alumni pressure. NIL issues, roster construction, X/O’s… all have little to nothing to do with any fishbowl failures. So I must be missing something.
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Hubert has never seemed comfortable with the job. I can't really put my finger on one thing, but he is insular and tends to keep his guard up. I could see him doing better in a lower profile job with less of a media spotlight. Some coaches are just more suited to higher-profile jobs. The Field of 68 guys did not think TJO would thrive in the UNC spotlight.
 
rodoheel said:
I don’t think anyone really knows how someone will handle that environment until they do it. So I put little stock in that.

I’d love TJO. Love his style, love his results, love his personality. No one is a sure thing but I’d be very surprised if we hire him and he isnt successful.
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There is some truth in that. If you are a good coach, you should be a good coach most places you go. But there are some coach/school fits that just aren't right for whatever reason. Don't think Brian Kelly and LSU worked well. In any event, it was just the opinion of the Fo68 guys, and they are wrong about a lot, but all of them thought TJO wouldn't do well in the Chapel Hill environment.
 
finesse said:
I've always liked Kevin. Never forgot he was a Duke fan and did read the fable of the scorpion and the frog but that doesn't much matter to me.
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I always remember a post of his after a UNC win over Duke that “Roy is balls deep I K right now.” LOL. I think he’s a good guy.
 
Luvy always had good things to say about him and ,while I didn't always agree with her, I trusted Luvy. One of many that I miss.
 
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