IC going to On3

BlooVooDoo said:
I hope Ben and company are successful, but I’ll be surprised if it isn’t struggling in 5 years.
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I'll take that bet. That would be highly surprising given the success of the business model over the past 25 years and the likely boost of joining the SEC.
 
Calheel said:
I'll take that bet. That would be highly surprising given the success of the business model over the past 25 years and the likely boost of joining the SEC.
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Much of that success was based on the importance of “insider” info about HS recruiting. The prospects of the basketball and football teams could change with 2 or 3 announcements and we followed recruits for years anticipating their decisions. With the transfer portal, rosters change dramatically just a few months before the season starts. I could be wrong, but I don’t see a sustained mass paying $10/mo to get a small amount of information a few weeks before it’s publicly available. The entire business model is vulnerable to one paying customer sharing info to thousands on social media.

I also think they have undervalued the draw of the community participating on the free boards and the effect that had on the success of the last 25 years. What will happen after alienating so many with “business decisions?”
 
BlooVooDoo said:
Much of that success was based on the importance of “insider” info about HS recruiting. The prospects of the basketball and football teams could change with 2 or 3 announcements and we followed recruits for years anticipating their decisions. With the transfer portal, rosters change dramatically just a few months before the season starts. I could be wrong, but I don’t see a sustained mass paying $10/mo to get a small amount of information a few weeks before it’s publicly available. The entire business model is vulnerable to one paying customer sharing info to thousands on social media.

I also think they have undervalued the draw of the community participating on the free boards and the effect that had on the success of the last 25 years. What will happen after alienating so many with “business decisions?”
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The free boards will still be there.

I have not peeked inside the curtain at IC's finances post-transfer portal era, but my best sense is that business has increased in the past two years. Looking at the number of employees, sponsors, podcasts, events covered, etc., my sense is that IC's operating budget and revenue are growing.
 
BlooVooDoo said:
Much of that success was based on the importance of “insider” info about HS recruiting. The prospects of the basketball and football teams could change with 2 or 3 announcements and we followed recruits for years anticipating their decisions. With the transfer portal, rosters change dramatically just a few months before the season starts. I could be wrong, but I don’t see a sustained mass paying $10/mo to get a small amount of information a few weeks before it’s publicly available. The entire business model is vulnerable to one paying customer sharing info to thousands on social media.

I also think they have undervalued the draw of the community participating on the free boards and the effect that had on the success of the last 25 years. What will happen after alienating so many with “business decisions?”
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I guess this is what I just don't get about IC. Following recruiting is like watching wrestling, I just don't understand the appeal. I pull for whoever the Heels put out on the field or the court when the season starts, but I've never understood the appeal of grown ass adults following the whims of teenagers who have been drinking their own bathwater about how important they are. The whole "insider information" thing has always struck me as a scam of Trumpian proportions. And as you mention, it only takes one paying customer to share the secret and blow the whole scheme up.
 
Rock said:
I’d forgotten about The Main Board in all of this and just took a look. That place is disgraceful. It’s so bad that if I were Ben Sherman, I would never associate with a company that allowed it.

Just a quick glance at the front page has threads calling black people animals and liberals a gay slur.
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I thought I'd check out the new IC board, not that I intend to post there any more than I have on the current IC board over the past year since this board was created, but I did read some of The Main Board and as you said it's something else. Trumpers who complain about this board being an echo chamber have nothing to complain about now that they can post there - it's a pure MAGA board with almost no liberal posts - I found maybe two threads on the entire board that might be called liberal. Maybe some of our resident Trumpers can go there - my guess is they will find that board very much to their liking.
 
farce© said:
I guess this is what I just don't get about IC. Following recruiting is like watching wrestling, I just don't understand the appeal. I pull for whoever the Heels put out on the field or the court when the season starts, but I've never understood the appeal of grown ass adults following the whims of teenagers who have been drinking their own bathwater about how important they are. The whole "insider information" thing has always struck me as a scam of Trumpian proportions. And as you mention, it only takes one paying customer to share the secret and blow the whole scheme up.
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@SnoopRob would tell you that the whims of those teenagers are absolutely critical to the success of the program. That you absolutely need a high percentage of blue chips in the program to have any chance at success.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
I thought I'd check out the new IC board, not that I intend to post there any more than I have on the current IC board over the past year since this board was created, but I did read some of The Main Board and as you said it's something else. Trumpers who complain about this board being an echo chamber have nothing to complain about now that they can post there - it's a pure MAGA board with almost no liberal posts - I found maybe two threads on the entire board that might be called liberal. Maybe some of our resident Trumpers can go there - my guess is that they will find that board very much to their liking.
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That board is just a placeholder. It won't be the UNC board starting tomorrow.
 
It's weird. Or maybe the opposite of weird. Over the last month or so, I've been getting more "We Miss You" popups on IC trying to get me to re-subscribe.
 
Calheel said:
@SnoopRob would tell you that the whims of those teenagers are absolutely critical to the success of the program. That you absolutely need a high percentage of blue chips in the program to have any chance at success.
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I'm sure that's true and I think that is where coaches earn their money, by inflating the egos of teenage boys. But I don't understand why any adult human who isn't being paid to subject themselves to that swamp would be interested.
 
Calheel said:
I'll take that bet. That would be highly surprising given the success of the business model over the past 25 years and the likely boost of joining the SEC.
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247 is also owned by Paramount that will be part of a new company in like 5 days with supposedly billions in cuts to follow soon thereafter. So 247's future is anything but clear.
 
altmin said:
I can't speak to any of that, but the timing is probably coincidental - yet it is still a relevant detail. Skydance is planning on taking a hatchet to Paramount assets.
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As a Star Trek fan I don't like the sound of that. Although given the popularity of the franchise I'm hoping that they will leave it alone. May well be wishful thinking though.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
As a Star Trek fan I don't like the sound of that. Although given the popularity of the franchise I'm hoping that they will leave it alone. May well be wishful thinking though.
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Paramount Shares Reverse Gains After Skydance Merger Greenlight, Investors Cautious – Update

Shares of Paramount are set to open higher after the FCC approval its merger but amid ongoing uncertainty about its strategic plans under Skydance.
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“With closure of the deal now assured, we expect investor attention to turn to new ownership’s plans to improve profitability at the combined company,” notes TD Cowen’s Doug Creuz.

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Paramount, like the rest of the media industry, is grappling with declining linear assets. “We remain eager to learn whether Skydance intends to stay in the cable network business, or whether a spin and/or possible combination with other portfolios is on the table,” says Fishman.

Sports rights are a question, most immediately the NFL, which has a change-of-control clause in its Paramount contract that will trigger an early renegotiation when the Skydance deal closes. Fishman finds it unlikely the league would forgo an opportunity to extract greater value, which could mean either “a larger annual payment or likely some other type of value transfer.”

Investors are eager for insight into the merged company’s streaming strategy around Paramount+ from external partnerships to bundling to licensing. Does Pluto “serve as an on-ramp to Paramount+, or is it positioned for a potential sale? Will there be a meaningful step-up in content investment?” asks Fishman. And more broadly, if, or how much, will Skydance ramp up overall content spending in a way that the debt-constrained Shari Redstone-owned company could not?
 
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