Is MAGA MSG Rally the October Surprise?

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BlooVooDoo said:
That’s fair. ID is getting Californicated anyway. It’ll be purple in another 10-15 years.
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This is what will ultimately save us if we hold on long enough. It doesn't take too many people moving into these states to turn their Senate votes. Remote work makes that possible. Colorado has gone blue. Wyoming has a population of 600,000. Only 250k of those voted in 2020. Surely we can get a couple hundred thousand people to move to the beautiful state and enjoy the great outdoors and vote for sanity.
 
lawtig02 said:
My impression is that Idaho is collecting all of California's MAGAs and is thus turning even redder, but I may be wrong about that.
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Interesting. I’ve read some articles about ID locals bitching about Californians coming in and being a pain in the ass. Of course part of that might be the fact that they’re relatively loaded and drive up prices of real estate and services and have expectations of competence that are foreign to much of Idaho.
 
BlooVooDoo said:
Interesting. I’ve read some articles about ID locals bitching about Californians coming in and being a pain in the ass. Of course part of that might be the fact that they’re relatively loaded and drive up prices of real estate and services and have expectations of competence that are foreign to much of Idaho.
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My impression is based on very little, so it may be that the state as a whole, and especially areas like Boise, are becoming bluer. I just know large parts of Idaho are basically like a (much more beautiful) Kandahar for right wing extremists, and it would make sense that like-minded Californians would be migrating to those areas.
 
Kraftyheel89 said:
nyc, I think you are seriously overestimating the electorate, as well as spineless politicians. CNN interviewed 3 Puerto Ricans living stateside. Two confessed to voting for Trump before. When asked, they said yes, they will vote for him again and do not care. The third was upset, but is a Dem.

AA Trump apologist Byron Donalds blamed the media this morning on CNBC. He said they are pushing a narrative of fear mongering rather than focusing on the facts and substance. This after Trump's so called big final closing argument at MSG, where an African American in the audience was pointed out for a watermelon joke. He won't lose that black guy's vote or many others.

Everyone is saying Trump must apologize or this could be devastating. Hogwash. Give Trump credit, he said before even elected first time, I could go out and shoot someone and not lose a single vote. He was 100% correct. Which is why he has no concerns about not apologizing and he never has anyway.

Unfortunately, a nothingburger with our electorate and cowardly MAGA politicians.
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True enough. Is it “the” October surprise? Maybe not. Should it be? Probably so.
 
What I really wish would happen is for leaders of ALL Hispanic groups in the US to come out and say what the Puerto Rican leaders have. We all know those jokes were made because they were in NY, but in reality, MAGA feels the same about all Hispanics. Some political ads saying the same thing in Florida, PA, Texas, really all of the south would hit hard.
 
Lando said:
Sadly I think the one guy to face real consequences for this is Tony Hinchcliffe.
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He really shouldn't face consequences and I doubt he will It's not his fault the Trump campaign is stupid enough to give him a platform. He's a comedian. Some of today's best humor comes from comedians who push the envelope on sensitive topics like race, sex, etc. Dave Chappelle. Quinn Dale. Drew Thomas. Anthony Jeselnik (so). Matt....whatever his name is. The consequences should be faced by Trump in the form of lost votes for incorporating this guy into a PRESIDENTIAL campaign rally, but this type of thing is baked into the pie, unfortunately.
 
ZenMode said:
He really shouldn't face consequences. It's not his fault the Trump campaign is stupid enough to give him a platform. He's a comedian. Some of today's best humor comes from comedians who push the envelope on topics like race, sex, etc. Dave Chappelle. Quinn Dale. Drew Thomas. Matt....whatever his name is. The consequences should be faced by Trump in the form of lost votes for incorporating this guy into a PRESIDENTIAL campaign rally, but this type of thing is baked into the pie, unfortunately.
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Come on now. He has agency. He can imagine how the time, place and context of his appearances will impact him personally. Yes, the Trump campaign was beyond stupid to include him. But he was also stupid to do that at a political rally. Or if he wasn't stupid, he should have known the type of response it would bring.

And I say this recognizing this could still prove to be a huge boon for his career.
 
ZenMode said:
He really shouldn't face consequences and I doubt he will It's not his fault the Trump campaign is stupid enough to give him a platform. He's a comedian. Some of today's best humor comes from comedians who push the envelope on sensitive topics like race, sex, etc. Dave Chappelle. Quinn Dale. Drew Thomas. Anthony Jeselnik (so). Matt....whatever his name is. The consequences should be faced by Trump in the form of lost votes for incorporating this guy into a PRESIDENTIAL campaign rally, but this type of thing is baked into the pie, unfortunately.
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Explain the joke.
 
Centerpiece said:
VP Harris literally called Trump a Fascist - point blank - on National Television. I'd say that's stressing how this wasn't some comedian going off script. I'm not sure how much more emphatic one can be in terms of "need to stress how..."
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I mean inundate the airwaves (and social media, whatever) with ads showing all of this.
 
lawtig02 said:
Come on now. He has agency. He can imagine how the time, place and context of his appearances will impact him personally. Yes, the Trump campaign was beyond stupid to include him. But he was also stupid to do that at a political rally. Or if he wasn't stupid, he should have known the type of response it would bring.

And I say this recognizing this could still prove to be a huge boon for his career.
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Let me ask you this......

If there was no media at the event, and no video of his set was ever released publicly, do you think he would face any consequences?
 
ZenMode said:
Let me ask you this......

If there was no media at the event, and no video of his set was ever released publicly, do you think he would face any consequences?
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I don't understand your point. He was speaking at a massive political rally in one of the most famous buildings in the world that had been hyped up for weeks. Media coverage of the event was a 100% absolute guarantee.

If he said the same thing as part of a show in a comedy club, no, I don't think there would be any consequences at all. But that was my point.
 
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