Is MAGA MSG Rally the October Surprise?

[duluoz]

1. I've never seen a comedian do that. Maybe it is something that asshole comedians whose audiences are assholes does, but even there I'm doubtful.

Oh jeez. That set was pretty tame relative to the club comedy scene in big cities. Shock is a pretty common component and a goal for some comics. For this guy, it’s practically his whole brand. Not everybody is Nate Bargatze.

But if you’re not in the comedy clubs or plugged into the stand-ups podcast world then I guess I can understand it being surprising.

 

[Ddseddse]

To the concern trolls on this thread, we see you. You're not fooling anyone.

 

[nycfan]

Just got in car and CNN just cut away because he is lying so much. Using this to enumerate violent crimes by immigrants and going on an anti-immigrant rant. To address offensive jokes about Americans, apparently.

 

[Macksbrownies]

Oh jeez. That set was pretty tame relative to the club comedy scene in big cities. Shock is a pretty common component and a goal for some comics. For this guy, it’s practically his whole brand. Not everybody is Nate Bargatze.

But if you’re not in the comedy clubs or plugged into the stand-ups podcast world then I guess I can understand it being surprising.

That’s the whole problem. Tony is well known/regarded in the comedy scene. However this was going to be seen by everyone, with the vast majority of people not knowing who this asshole is, thus the outrage. He deserves everything negative outcome with this being a magat himself.

 

[nycfan]

Charlottesville second presser 2.0?

 

[Rock]

Just got in car and CNN just cut away because he is lying so much. Using this to enumerate violent crimes by immigrants and going on an anti-immigrant rant. To address offensive jokes about Americans, apparently.

Fox News is the only network carrying it live it seems. Every other network is just going ahead with regular programming. Sad.

 

[farce©]

Oh jeez. That set was pretty tame relative to the club comedy scene in big cities. Shock is a pretty common component and a goal for some comics. For this guy, it’s practically his whole brand. Not everybody is Nate Bargatze.

But if you’re not in the comedy clubs or plugged into the stand-ups podcast world then I guess I can understand it being surprising.

He wasn’t in a comedy club or a standup podcast, so what happens there is irrelevant to this instance. He was on national TV at MSG on the program with a major party Presidential candidate. If he (and the Trump campaign) are too stupid for him to not understand that difference, he deserves whatever is coming his way.

 

[Centerpiece]

I mean inundate the airwaves (and social media, whatever) with ads showing all of this.

I get it and agree somewhat, but there’s some push back on going with that full-throated:
The political backdrop, however, is the simmering anxiety among Democrats who fear that Harris has chosen the wrong message to close out her campaign with. As Lisa Kashinsky found in southwest Michigan, there’s no shortage of second-guessing of her late focus on fascism. “We can’t keep campaigning on modes of fear,” one former state rep told her.

 

[1moretimeagain]

This Trump thing is about other stuff, his regular BS.

 

[duluoz]

That’s the whole problem. Tony is well known/regarded in the comedy scene. However this was going to be seen by everyone, with the vast majority of people not knowing who this asshole is, thus the outrage. He deserves everything negative outcome with this being a magat himself.

And I’m saying not only does he deserve it, since he was fully aware of the reach… but it was calculated by him and he’s prepared for it. Or at least he thinks he is. He’s just leaning into his persona and gambling it’ll pay off.

But whatever negative impact he gets, he has it coming.

 

[SnoopRob]

To the concern trolls on this thread, we see you. You're not fooling anyone.

I don't see them. Thanks, super ignore!

 

[lawtig02]

Trump will continue to double down on the hate, the racism, the lies, the insanity. This is not a prebuttal. It’s a man suffering from dementia trying to make it through a script written by fascists.

 

[SnoopRob]

First snow was probably a month ago

That's ok, I'm not there yet.

 

[rodoheel]

It’s dementia plus I genuinely think he’s trying to create a frothing mass of incels and bubbas, in prep to call for mass violence.

Nah that isn't Trump's plan. He doesn't give a crap beyond his own self-interested of being elected and having everyone call him a big strong popular awesome president. And I genuinely don't think he wants mass violence. It's the freaks like Bannon and Miller that want that stuff, and they may well be able to convince trump that it's needed for some reason.

 

[superrific]

Oh jeez. That set was pretty tame relative to the club comedy scene in big cities. Shock is a pretty common component and a goal for some comics. For this guy, it’s practically his whole brand. Not everybody is Nate Bargatze.

But if you’re not in the comedy clubs or plugged into the stand-ups podcast world then I guess I can understand it being surprising.

Well, then, I stand by my assessment that it's "comedy" produced by assholes for other assholes.

 

[duluoz]

He wasn’t in a comedy club or a standup podcast, so what happens there is irrelevant to this instance. He was on national TV at MSG on the program with a major party Presidential candidate. If he (and the Trump campaign) are too stupid for him to not understand that difference, he deserves whatever is coming his way.

Yeah, that’s what I said multiple times.

Part of my response was aimed at super saying he’s never seen a comedian say things like that.

It’s about context. If he tells those jokes in any comedy club he gets groans and a few chuckles and moves on with his set. But an edgy roast comic brought edgy roast jokes (and lame ones, at that) to a global geopolitical stage. If he gets torn to shreds, so be it.

 

[HintonJamesHeel]

This could matter on the fringes and that’s all that matters. With that said, humans are stupid so I wouldn’t count on it.

 

[superrific]

Part of my response was aimed at super saying he’s never seen a comedian say things like that.

I once watched about the first 5-10 minutes of a Lisa Lampanelli show. It consisted of her articulating ethnic slurs and the audience cheering for them. No real jokes. It was more like a circle jerk in function.

But that's still miles from "piece of garbage." And I'm not going to dispute your contention that this is relatively mundane stuff -- how could I? I don't go to NYC comedy clubs -- but I don't think it's because I'm somehow sheltered. I would guess that the majority of Americans have not heard such a vile joke from a professional comedian.

 

[finesse]

This could matter on the fringes and that’s all that matters. With that said, humans are stupid so I wouldn’t count on it.

That's true if you consider every Puerto Rican on the fringe. After the hurricane response, this was heaping coals on their head. There are places in this nation where that could swing a state.

 

[nycfan]

Not the first time Trump has alerted media he is giving a press availability and used it for a free rally.







“… and she could look at the carnage and look at all the people that have been killed and you haven’t seen anything yet because they’ve just started, they’re just getting comfortable in our country these are very tough people …”