Is MAGA MSG Rally the October Surprise?

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farce© said:
He wasn’t in a comedy club or a standup podcast, so what happens there is irrelevant to this instance. He was on national TV at MSG on the program with a major party Presidential candidate. If he (and the Trump campaign) are too stupid for him to not understand that difference, he deserves whatever is coming his way.
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Yeah, that’s what I said multiple times.

Part of my response was aimed at super saying he’s never seen a comedian say things like that.

It’s about context. If he tells those jokes in any comedy club he gets groans and a few chuckles and moves on with his set. But an edgy roast comic brought edgy roast jokes (and lame ones, at that) to a global geopolitical stage. If he gets torn to shreds, so be it.
 
duluoz said:
Part of my response was aimed at super saying he’s never seen a comedian say things like that.
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I once watched about the first 5-10 minutes of a Lisa Lampanelli show. It consisted of her articulating ethnic slurs and the audience cheering for them. No real jokes. It was more like a circle jerk in function.

But that's still miles from "piece of garbage." And I'm not going to dispute your contention that this is relatively mundane stuff -- how could I? I don't go to NYC comedy clubs -- but I don't think it's because I'm somehow sheltered. I would guess that the majority of Americans have not heard such a vile joke from a professional comedian.
 
HintonJamesHeel said:
This could matter on the fringes and that’s all that matters. With that said, humans are stupid so I wouldn’t count on it.
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That's true if you consider every Puerto Rican on the fringe. After the hurricane response, this was heaping coals on their head. There are places in this nation where that could swing a state.
 
Not the first time Trump has alerted media he is giving a press availability and used it for a free rally.







“… and she could look at the carnage and look at all the people that have been killed and you haven’t seen anything yet because they’ve just started, they’re just getting comfortable in our country these are very tough people …”

 
rodoheel said:
Nah that isn't Trump's plan. He doesn't give a crap beyond his own self-interested of being elected and having everyone call him a big strong popular awesome president. And I genuinely don't think he wants mass violence. It's the freaks like Bannon and Miller that want that stuff, and they may well be able to convince trump that it's needed for some reason.
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Disagree on ttump. There’s a reason he did what he did on J6; it was ALL self interest. Agree on Bannon and Miller.
 


Trumps team indicated to media this would be a press conference and cover the coverage of his MSG rally. So far, another bait and switch. And telling that the way Trump is doubling down about offensive remarks about Americans from Puerto Rico is to go on a rant bout illegal immigration.
 
superrific said:
But that's still miles from "piece of garbage." And I'm not going to dispute your contention that this is relatively mundane stuff -- how could I? I don't go to NYC comedy clubs -- but I don't think it's because I'm somehow sheltered. I would guess that the majority of Americans have not heard such a vile joke from a professional comedian.
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Fair enough, that’s why I said I guess I can see it being a surprise. I’ve been to so many shows and listened to enough podcasts to know that, relatively, it was a tame (and unfunny) set.

Hinchcliffe is in Austin, and Austin in recent years has cultivated a comedy club scene leaning toward the right and headed by Rogan/Hinchcliffe and others. And consequently that scene is becoming notorious for walking that line between what some consider edgy comedy and what some consider hate speech/xenophobia/conspiracy etc. From what I’ve seen, that scene is not my thing.

But it’s always about context. What flies in an Austin club may bomb in SF, LA, NYC, Chicago, etc. And what flies in those places would still bomb at a major political event in front of a world audience. As we are seeing.
 
duluoz said:
Hinchcliffe is in Austin, and Austin in recent years has cultivated a comedy club scene leaning toward the right and headed by Rogan/Hinchcliffe and others. And consequently that scene is becoming notorious for walking that line between what some consider edgy comedy and what some consider hate speech/xenophobia etc. From my experience, that scene is not my thing.
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I think it's less that they "walk that line" between edgy comedy and hate speech/xenophobia and more that they simply appeal to a crowd that finds hate speech/xenophobia funny.
 
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