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Gay rights definitely play into morality, which was your claim. If you kill someone for their sexuality, you are scum. No questions. Hamas doesn’t accept gays. They don’t tolerate gays. That’s a no-go me on anyone saying they are moral. Total joke.
LMAOOOOOOOO at right wingers pretending to care about LGBTQ rights.

you people are SHAMELESS.
 

Senior official: Hamas no longer interested in truce talks after Israel's new Gaza plan​

A senior Hamas official told AFP on Tuesday the group was no longer interested in truce talks with Israel after Benjamin Netanyahu on Monday announced a new “intensified” offensive in Gaza that will involve Israeli troops holding on to seized territory and significant displacement of the population.

“There is no sense in engaging in talks or considering new ceasefire proposals as long as the hunger war and extermination war continue in the Gaza Strip,” Basem Naim told the news agency, urging the international community “to pressure the Netanyahu government to end the crimes of hunger, thirst, and killings” in Gaza.

His comments come a day after Israel’s military said expanded operations in Gaza would include displacing “most” of its residents, and amid Israeli strikes on Yemen and Lebanon.

After a fragile ceasefire in Gaza collapsed in mid-March, Israel renewed its bombardment of the territory, and more than 70% of Gaza is under Israeli control or covered by orders issued by Israel telling Palestinian civilians to evacuate specific neighbourhoods.

Hamas is still believed to be holding dozens of Israeli hostages who were seized and abducted from southern Israel during the Hamas surprise attack on 7 October 2023. Many of the hostages are thought to be dead.
 

Senior official: Hamas no longer interested in truce talks after Israel's new Gaza plan​

A senior Hamas official told AFP on Tuesday the group was no longer interested in truce talks with Israel after Benjamin Netanyahu on Monday announced a new “intensified” offensive in Gaza that will involve Israeli troops holding on to seized territory and significant displacement of the population.

“There is no sense in engaging in talks or considering new ceasefire proposals as long as the hunger war and extermination war continue in the Gaza Strip,” Basem Naim told the news agency, urging the international community “to pressure the Netanyahu government to end the crimes of hunger, thirst, and killings” in Gaza.

His comments come a day after Israel’s military said expanded operations in Gaza would include displacing “most” of its residents, and amid Israeli strikes on Yemen and Lebanon.

After a fragile ceasefire in Gaza collapsed in mid-March, Israel renewed its bombardment of the territory, and more than 70% of Gaza is under Israeli control or covered by orders issued by Israel telling Palestinian civilians to evacuate specific neighbourhoods.

Hamas is still believed to be holding dozens of Israeli hostages who were seized and abducted from southern Israel during the Hamas surprise attack on 7 October 2023. Many of the hostages are thought to be dead.
"Hamas no longer interested in truce talks"

What in the world would make anyone believe Hamas was ever interested in truce talks?

That's not me being fecetious.

My first clue that Hamas didn't want truce talks was when they murdered 1,000 Israeli citizens on October 7th and, in some cases, used the cell phones of the deceased to call home and brag about it.

selena just saying GIF
 
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"Hamas no longer interested in truce talks"

What in the world would make anyone believe Hamas was ever interested in truce talks?

That's not me being fecetious.

My first clue that Hamas didn't want truce talks was when they murdered 1,000 Israeli citizens on October 7th and, in some cases, used the cell phones of the deceased to call home and brag about it.

selena just saying GIF
What in the world would make anyone believe Israel was ever interested in truce talks?

That's not me being facetious.

My first clue was the harassment, treatment, and killing of Palestinians for the last 75 years and in many cases they post videos laughing and bragging about it. Or maybe more recently that Netanyahu has been wanting to take Gaza back and wants the West Bank as well.

Just Saying Schitts Creek GIF by CBC
 

In the short term, this seems like something that has to be done to ensure the long term viability of Gaza as a territory not run by a terrorist regime.

I can't imagine this is something Israel wants to do. They pulled out in 2005 for a reason - managing Gaza is expensive and a pain in the ass. ''

The article makes it pretty clear that this is a short term thing. They want to force out Hamas and ensure aid is being distributed appropriately, which Hamas was not doing.
 
What in the world would make anyone believe Israel was ever interested in truce talks?

That's not me being facetious.

My first clue was the harassment, treatment, and killing of Palestinians for the last 75 years and in many cases they post videos laughing and bragging about it. Or maybe more recently that Netanyahu has been wanting to take Gaza back and wants the West Bank as well.

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Israel doesn't want to need to have truce talks. Israel would love to completely leave Gaza to their devices, knowing that their leadership won't act like jackasses, but they can't because they're run by terrorists and act like terrorists. As a result, Israel, despite pulling out 20 years ago, now has to move back in to babysit.

If you haven't noticed, there are no countries in line to run Gaza.... ever the multiple Muslim majority countries in the region.
 
When in Rome.

Of ALL the Tweets in this thread, almost the entirety of which are anti-Israel, THIS is the one you choose to question.
I guess you also believed that the calendar they found in the basement of the hospital was a "terrorist shift schedule" lol

So you are saying this fake evidence is justification to starve a whole population? Basically, the justification that they are blocking aid is because there are bullets hidden in bags instead of food.
 
hook, line and sinker.

you LOVE being propagandized.
Yes, obviously:

 
Yes, obviously:


i mean, you have your moments. it isn't 24/7/365. maybe more like 12/5/300.

i wouldn't engage with you in any remotely friendly way if i didn't think that you had the occasional somewhat redeemable thought/viewpoint.
 
I guess you also believed that the calendar they found in the basement of the hospital was a "terrorist shift schedule" lol
I didn't believe or disbelieve it. It wasn't important enough to even worry about. As it turns out, the IDF soldier thought it was something that it wasn't.
So you are saying this fake evidence is justification to starve a whole population? Basically, the justification that they are blocking aid is because there are bullets hidden in bags instead of food.
No. I've already said I think the aid should be permitted.

Why wouldn't Hamas release the hostages so that Israel would resume the aid?
 
i mean, you have your moments. it isn't 24/7/365. maybe more like 12/5/300.

i wouldn't engage with you in any remotely friendly way if i didn't think that you had the occasional somewhat redeemable thought/viewpoint.
RaiGuy posted a Tweet of a video claiming that there was a gender reveal event, on the part of IDF, and that reveal was done via some kind of blue explosive powder. I look at that and say to myself, for a variety of reasons, "That's fake. I thought the same about many of RaiGuy's Twitter posts, but generally don't say anything.

So, in the spirit of "turnabout is fair play", I post my own Tweet.... and here comes that pushback!

It's just funny and telling.
 
RaiGuy posted a Tweet of a video claiming that there was a gender reveal event, on the part of IDF, and that reveal was done via some kind of blue explosive powder. I look at that and say to myself, for a variety of reasons, "That's fake. I thought the same about many of RaiGuy's Twitter posts, but generally don't say anything.

So, in the spirit of "turnabout is fair play", I post my own Tweet.... and here comes that pushback!

It's just funny and telling.
does it strike you as funny and telling that you have to repeatedly JCD the morality and virtue of a sovereign nation as it commits a slew of war crimes and atrocities while the rest of us point out how awful it all is and only attempt to defend the civilians who are being decimated and not the terrorist organization?
 
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An Israeli government minister has vowed that “Gaza will be entirely destroyed” as a result of an Israeli military victory, and that its Palestinian population will “leave in great numbers to third countries”, raising fears of ethnic cleansing in the occupied territory.

The declaration on Tuesday by the finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich, came a day after Israel’s security cabinet approved a plan for Operation Gideon’s Chariots, which an Israeli official said would entail “the conquest of the Gaza Strip and the holding of the territories”.


The Israeli threats to seize control of the territory permanently has stirred global outrage.

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Effie Defrin, Israel’s chief military spokesperson, said the planned offensive would include “moving most of the population of the Gaza Strip … to protect them”. Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, said the “population will be moved, for its own protection” in a video posted on social media, but gave no further details.
 
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