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[FreeGuy]

Funny how there’s been Muslim women presidents than female presidents in the US. But I guess facts aren’t important. Gtfoh you xenophobic prick.

Really? Where?

It’s not xenophobic to post facts. You may not like them but they are facts.

I didn’t even bring up child brides.

If you are going to discuss anti-Semitic tropes about “Zionism” the coin has two sides.

 

[superrific]

Really? Where?

It’s not xenophobic to post facts. You may not like them but they are facts.

I didn’t even bring up child brides.

If you are going to discuss anti-Semitic tropes about “Zionism” the coin has two sides.

Most coins have two sides even if RaiGuy doesn't discuss anti-Semitic tropes. What do the coins look like in your world? Mobius strips?

And the coin having two sides is his point and mine and many others here. Try to keep up.

 

[ZenMode]

wouldn’t you say an intent to demolish and empty out Gaza and starve the population is not really looking to minimize civilian death? They aren’t protecting civilians out of the goodness of their hearts. They just want to do it slowly to avoid the backlash, which is working.

I haven't seen anything that makes me believe Israel wants to "demolish and empty out" Gaza.

Leveraging aid to get hostages released is questionable. Israel puts significant priority of getting ALL hostages released. They once released over 1,000 terrorist, including Sinwar, to get one hostage back.

However, it appears that Israel has now changed their approach and Israel will temporarily take over all of Gaza in order to resume aid and remove Hamas. Again, if the roles were reversed, would Hamas take steps to help Israeli civilians?

BTW, before Israel's announced intent to take over Gaza and resume aid, I said here there was a 99% chance Israel caves first regarding withholding aid. I accurately predicted that because Hamas/Jihadists aren't scared to die as a martyr.... because of their religious, not socio-economic/political, beliefs.

I mentioned the Taliban attack on a Peshawar school in 2014. They killed 130 children while reportedly yelling Allahu Akbar. I can't find the link, but I have a partial quote from a Taliban supporter about the attack:

“Human life only has value among you worldly materialist thinkers. For us, this human life is only a tiny meaningless fragment of our existence. Our real destination is the Hereafter. We don’t just believe it exists, we know it does. Death is not the end of life. It is the beginning of existence, in a world much more beautiful than this. As you know, the (Urdu) word for death is ‘intiqaal.’ It means ‘transfer,’ not 'end'.

"Paradise is for those of pure hearts. All children have pure hearts. They have not yet sinned. … They have not yet been corrupted [by their apostate parents]. We did not end their lives. We gave them new ones, in Paradise, where they will be loved more than you can imagine …”

That is pure, religion-fueled evil and those are the types of people running Gaza (Hamas) and fighting Israel.

 

[Batt Boy]

Lots to digest the past several weeks



1. Hezbollah's disarmament is going better than expected. Lebanon's government is clearing some areas faster than expected, and there were even instances of Hamas and other Palestinian terrorist groups surrendering arms and being arrested.

2. Israeli airstrikes continue in Lebanon (as per ceasefire agreement) with 0 response from Hezbollah so far, indicating Hezbollah is thoroughly deterred, demoralized, and broken.

3. In Gaza, the IDF seems (according to satellite footage) to prepare the ground in several ways.
A. Rafah buffer zone is being expanded massively.
B. Rafah is being flattened and rubble is cleared. Ground is paved in a way that indicates a future tent city.
C. Netzarim and Morag corridors are being expanded.
D. Buffer zone into Gaza is being expanded.

4. It's indicated that the plan is to evacuate the entire population of Gaza to Rafah into the large camp being prepared. Aid will be distributed from just 1 location in Gaza, directly from IDF-controlled territory, in order to reduce thefts that allow Hamas to stay politically relevant.

5. New poll reveals 47% of Gazans are willing to leave Gaza if given the option. Small numbers of Gazans with foreign citizenship have already left via Israel.

6. The US initiated a massive strike campaign on the Houthis and recently stopped following a ceasefire announcement.

7. Israel and Houthis engaged more directly recently after a Houthi missile landed very close to Israel's Ben Gurion international airport, and Israel retaliated by destroying the Houthis' only international airport in Sanaa, and their sea port in Hodeidah. The airport is done for years.

8. Various mysterious explosions are occurring in Iran including in its largest sea port, during talks with the US regarding its nuclear program.

 

[ZenMode]

Lots to digest the past several weeks



1. Hezbollah's disarmament is going better than expected. Lebanon's government is clearing some areas faster than expected, and there were even instances of Hamas and other Palestinian terrorist groups surrendering arms and being arrested.

2. Israeli airstrikes continue in Lebanon (as per ceasefire agreement) with 0 response from Hezbollah so far, indicating Hezbollah is thoroughly deterred, demoralized, and broken.

3. In Gaza, the IDF seems (according to satellite footage) to prepare the ground in several ways.
A. Rafah buffer zone is being expanded massively.
B. Rafah is being flattened and rubble is cleared. Ground is paved in a way that indicates a future tent city.
C. Netzarim and Morag corridors are being expanded.
D. Buffer zone into Gaza is being expanded.

4. It's indicated that the plan is to evacuate the entire population of Gaza to Rafah into the large camp being prepared. Aid will be distributed from just 1 location in Gaza, directly from IDF-controlled territory, in order to reduce thefts that allow Hamas to stay politically relevant.

5. New poll reveals 47% of Gazans are willing to leave Gaza if given the option. Small numbers of Gazans with foreign citizenship have already left via Israel.

6. The US initiated a massive strike campaign on the Houthis and recently stopped following a ceasefire announcement.

7. Israel and Houthis engaged more directly recently after a Houthi missile landed very close to Israel's Ben Gurion international airport, and Israel retaliated by destroying the Houthis' only international airport in Sanaa, and their sea port in Hodeidah. The airport is done for years.

8. Various mysterious explosions are occurring in Iran including in its largest sea port, during talks with the US regarding its nuclear program.

I think #2 is also true of Iran. They aren't coming to the defense of Hamas or Hezbollah because they don't have Russia to prop them up.

 

[RaiGuy]

I haven't seen anything that makes me believe Israel wants to "demolish and empty out" Gaza.

you may have missed this with all the other news. This was 2 days ago by a government official.

Israeli official says Gaza will be "entirely destroyed," Palestinians "will start to leave in great numbers"

Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich says victory in Gaza will mean the enclave being "entirely destroyed," Palestinians leaving for other countries.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[RaiGuy]

Really? Where?

It’s not xenophobic to post facts. You may not like them but they are facts.

I didn’t even bring up child brides.

If you are going to discuss anti-Semitic tropes about “Zionism” the coin has two sides.

Google is your friend

List of Muslim women heads of state and government - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

It is xenophobic when you post lies about Islam.

Tell me an anti-Semitic trope that I said? Also, if you weren’t an idiot, you would know that Judaism and Zionism are not the same. You can criticize Israel and not be anti-Semitic. Also, Palestinians are semites as well, so there’s that.
Now try doing some research next time before you come talking about facts.

 

[farce©]

Funny how all of the peaceful protesters screaming to “Free Palestine” always cover their faces.

Why is that?

Why do ICE agents always cover their faces?

 

[ZenMode]

you may have missed this with all the other news. This was 2 days ago by a government official.

Israeli official says Gaza will be "entirely destroyed," Palestinians "will start to leave in great numbers"

Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich says victory in Gaza will mean the enclave being "entirely destroyed," Palestinians leaving for other countries.

www.cbsnews.com

I don't know much of anything about the role of the Minister of Finance in military decisions in Israel, but I don't suspect his opinion means much. It also sounds like he's a far-right big mouth.

From what I've read, the official position of Israel seems to be a plan to drive out Hamas and get aid to the citizens of Gaza, not drive citizens from Gaza.