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[HintonJamesHeel]

There are damn good reasons for people to be protesting Israel. The current Israeli government is an abomination. Israelis protest their shitty government regularly without being called antisemitic.

Again - 90% of Americans don’t know Americans politics well. They sure as hell don’t know Israel and Palestine. They see a group destroying buildings and wearing masks looking intimidating and just want to be against that.

 

[farce©]

Destroying buildings?

 

[HintonJamesHeel]

Destroying buildings?

Yes. Vandalism is destroying building. In January, protestors added cement to the sewage system and destroyed the plumbing. That’s destroying buildings.

 

[RaiGuy]

Yes. Vandalism is destroying building. In January, protestors added cement to the sewage system and destroyed the plumbing. That’s destroying buildings.

Fans of winning (and sometimes losing) teams cause damage in the aftermath, yet that doesn’t get the same response.

 

[superrific]

What’s in everyone face in this country is folks taking over university buildings, wearing masks, and destroying property.

WTF are you talking about? In which country? In whose face?

 

[Zoo_View]

Or maybe it's just because children starve faster than adult males

Not going to like this post; but, agree wholeheartedly with it.

 

[ZZLPHeels]

Fans of winning (and sometimes losing) teams cause damage in the aftermath, yet that doesn’t get the same response.

Not the same and you know that. Violently attacking something out of rage is different than drunkenly going too far while partying.

 

[farce©]

Yes. Vandalism is destroying building. In January, protestors added cement to the sewage system and destroyed the plumbing. That’s destroying buildings.

At Columbia? Toilets were clogged in the women's rooms on four floors of the building. It was repaired overnight and ready for service the next day. While that is regrettable and punishable, it hardly qualifies as "destroying the building." You got anything else? Is graffiti "destroying buildings?"

 

[RaiGuy]

Not the same and you know that. Violently attacking something out of rage is different than drunkenly going too far while partying.

Ah ok, maybe next time the protestors should get drunk and then their actions would be excusable.

 

[Calheel]

Destroying buildings?

Kinda gives it away, huh? Using the less accurate verb "destroy" rather than the more accurate verb "damage" shows the propaganda intent.

 

[ZZLPHeels]

Ah ok, maybe next time the protestors should get drunk and then their actions would be excusable.

Maybe they should just not resort to violence.

 

[nycfan]

 

[HintonJamesHeel]

Kinda gives it away, huh? Using the less accurate verb "destroy" rather than the more accurate verb "damage" shows the propaganda intent.

lol

 

[Geisterfahrer]

But since there’s no proof they can do that other than a random Israeli official, why do I care?

You can’t be serious.

 

[superrific]

lol

I wouldn't accuse you of propaganda intent, but if we leave aside the pejorative, he's right, isn't he? You know that damaging plumbing isn't destroying a building. You were exaggerating and you got called out, yes? I mean, that happens. If you fess up, it's a nothing. There was one time I said something like "if Ben Simmons could develop a reliable jump shot, he could be one of the great players in recent memory" and well, yeah.

But doubling down on the exaggeration seems ill-advised. I mean, re: Simmons, I did say *if*, and since he hasn't I'm not technically wrong. I didn't predict what would happen if he didn't. Still, probably the better response would be, yeah I got a bit enthusiastic there, or if I had to avoid stepping all the way down, I didn't foresee he would basically quit playing basketball.

 

[tarheelbillie]

Did you read the article text? Israel is basically bragging about how they can sway our senate

Surprise, surprise! They can... they do. Seems we officially adopted Israel in 1948. Canada to be state #51? Can't happen... slot not available.

 

[Zoo_View]

Surprise, surprise! They can... they do. Seems we officially adopted Israel in 1948. Canada to be state #51? Can't happen... slot not available.

Israel’s way too independent and out-of-control to be the 51st state.

More like a badly spoiled child; say Veruca Salt or Mike Teavee from “Charlie and the Chocolate Factory” or Lotho Sackville-Baggins from LoTR.

 

[HintonJamesHeel]

Israel’s way too independent and out-of-control to be the 51st state.

More like a badly spoiled child; say Veruca Salt or Mike Teavee from “Charlie and the Chocolate Factory” or Lotho Sackville-Baggins from LoTR.

The dynamics that caused the attack on the Israeli hostages are still trending negatively for Palestinians. Saudis Arabia was close to embracing Israel before the attack and the global dynamics now don’t show Saudis Arabia is looking to oppose the Israel and the US. In fact, the alliance is growing closer.

 

[lawtig02]

The dynamics that caused the attack on the Israeli hostages are still trending negatively for Palestinians. Saudis Arabia was close to embracing Israel before the attack and the global dynamics now don’t show Saudis Arabia is looking to oppose the Israel and the US. In fact, the alliance is growing closer.

This is one of those horrible situations where two things can be true at the same time.

1. Hamas's attack was indefensible and outrageous on every possible ground. It can't be legitimized. That type of violent action can never be condoned. And yes, it has proven to be a cataclysmic mistake for the Palestinian population, and for Gazans in particular.

2. Hamas resorted to that inexcusable tactic because it felt desperate and isolated and was willing to take a massive risk in order to try to change a dynamic that was moving inextricably against the Palestinian people. Massive risks like that rarely work, and this one did not. And even if it had, it still wouldn't justify what they did.

But the point is that it should be no surprise the dynamics are trending negatively against the Palestinians. They were before the attack. They were right after the attack. They are now. It's a dynamic that has been trending this way for a long, long time, and that's a large part of the reason the attack happened in the first place.

 

[ZenMode]

It's a good thing Hamas/Jihadists/Muslims just want "their" land back, and don't want to wipe Jews off the face of the Earth, or this could be taken the wrong way....

‘We’ll burn Jews like Hitler did’, says BBC contributor in Gaza
A journalist who appears prominently on the BBC’s Arabic channel to report from Gaza called for Jews to be burned “as Hitler did”, it can be revealed.

Samer Elzaenen has appeared on BBC Arabic more than a dozen times since the conflict erupted following the October 7 Hamas attacks on southern Israel.

He reported live last month and his dispatches have included reports from the Nuseirat refugee camp in June last year, after an Israeli military operation to rescue four hostages, held by Hamas, led to hundreds of Palestinian deaths.

In a Facebook post in July 2022, he stated: “When things go awry for us, shoot the Jews, it fixes everything.”

Elzaenen has also appeared to call for a repeat of the Holocaust, stating on Facebook in May 2011: “My message to the Zionist Jews: We are going to take our land back, we love death for Allah’s sake the same way you love life. We shall burn you as Hitler did, but this time we won’t have a single one of you left.”

Elsewhere on social media, he has posted a hashtag stating: “#We Are All Hamas You Son of a Jewess”

‘We’ll burn Jews like Hitler did’, says BBC contributor in Gaza

A journalist who appears prominently on the BBC’s Arabic channel to report from Gaza called for Jews to be burned “as Hitler did”, it can be revealed.

www.yahoo.com