Israel Hamas War, West Bank, Etc. | Hostilities resume

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HintonJamesHeel said:
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I wouldn't accuse you of propaganda intent, but if we leave aside the pejorative, he's right, isn't he? You know that damaging plumbing isn't destroying a building. You were exaggerating and you got called out, yes? I mean, that happens. If you fess up, it's a nothing. There was one time I said something like "if Ben Simmons could develop a reliable jump shot, he could be one of the great players in recent memory" and well, yeah.

But doubling down on the exaggeration seems ill-advised. I mean, re: Simmons, I did say *if*, and since he hasn't I'm not technically wrong. I didn't predict what would happen if he didn't. Still, probably the better response would be, yeah I got a bit enthusiastic there, or if I had to avoid stepping all the way down, I didn't foresee he would basically quit playing basketball.
 
tarheelbillie said:
Surprise, surprise! They can... they do. Seems we officially adopted Israel in 1948. Canada to be state #51? Can't happen... slot not available.
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Israel’s way too independent and out-of-control to be the 51st state.

More like a badly spoiled child; say Veruca Salt or Mike Teavee from “Charlie and the Chocolate Factory” or Lotho Sackville-Baggins from LoTR.
 
Zoo_View said:
Israel’s way too independent and out-of-control to be the 51st state.

More like a badly spoiled child; say Veruca Salt or Mike Teavee from “Charlie and the Chocolate Factory” or Lotho Sackville-Baggins from LoTR.
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The dynamics that caused the attack on the Israeli hostages are still trending negatively for Palestinians. Saudis Arabia was close to embracing Israel before the attack and the global dynamics now don’t show Saudis Arabia is looking to oppose the Israel and the US. In fact, the alliance is growing closer.
 
HintonJamesHeel said:
The dynamics that caused the attack on the Israeli hostages are still trending negatively for Palestinians. Saudis Arabia was close to embracing Israel before the attack and the global dynamics now don’t show Saudis Arabia is looking to oppose the Israel and the US. In fact, the alliance is growing closer.
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This is one of those horrible situations where two things can be true at the same time.

1. Hamas's attack was indefensible and outrageous on every possible ground. It can't be legitimized. That type of violent action can never be condoned. And yes, it has proven to be a cataclysmic mistake for the Palestinian population, and for Gazans in particular.

2. Hamas resorted to that inexcusable tactic because it felt desperate and isolated and was willing to take a massive risk in order to try to change a dynamic that was moving inextricably against the Palestinian people. Massive risks like that rarely work, and this one did not. And even if it had, it still wouldn't justify what they did.

But the point is that it should be no surprise the dynamics are trending negatively against the Palestinians. They were before the attack. They were right after the attack. They are now. It's a dynamic that has been trending this way for a long, long time, and that's a large part of the reason the attack happened in the first place.
 
HintonJamesHeel said:
The dynamics that caused the attack on the Israeli hostages are still trending negatively for Palestinians. Saudis Arabia was close to embracing Israel before the attack and the global dynamics now don’t show Saudis Arabia is looking to oppose the Israel and the US. In fact, the alliance is growing closer.
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Sounds like they don't need our weapons anymore.
 
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