Joe Biden Was NOT running the country

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I guess I'm a relative newbie but I don't remember that guy at all...
 
finesse said:
What exactly did they cause? You're wrong about the number of immigrants. You're wrong about the percentage of illegals.. You're wrong about the correlation to crime. You're wrong about the correlation to disease. And, as the Cato Institute points out often and loudly, any connection made between immigration and the drug trade are the asinine ravings of a lunatic.

So, in some sort of fact supported detail, what did they cause?
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How about California having to spend 8.3 Billion this year on healthcare expenses for illegals?
 
How about it? What does that have to do with the nation or all the terrible, horrible sinful crimes all over the country that those drug crazed degenerate immigrants commit when they aren't eating the pets?
 
Ramrouser said:
How about California having to spend 8.3 Billion this year on healthcare expenses for illegals?
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How much do you spend in Georgia? The theory of the case is that you either pay for them in the emergency room or you pay for them through Medicaid, and Newsom was trying to get the feds to pick up the tab. The latest is that Newsom wants to put the program on pause (coincidentally as he has moved to the right prior to a presidential run) and maybe start charging $100 a month in premiums.

I don't know a great solution to the issue, but I am pretty sure allowing emergency rooms to be used as walk-in clinics is not the best way to handle medical care efficiently.
 

Calheel said:
How much do you spend in Georgia? The theory of the case is that you either pay for them in the emergency room or you pay for them through Medicaid, and Newsom was trying to get the feds to pick up the tab. The latest is that Newsom wants to put the program on pause (coincidentally as he has moved to the right prior to a presidential run) and maybe start charging $100 a month in premiums.

I don't know a great solution to the issue, but I am pretty sure allowing emergency rooms to be used as walk-in clinics is not the best way to handle medical care efficiently.
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State - funded uncompensated outlays for health care provided to Georgia illegal aliens is estimated to be 210 million. I have no doubt that Georgia residents pay more for medical insurance due to illegals visiting emergency rooms but I suspect Georgia insurance premiums are less than California.
 
Ramrouser said:
State - funded uncompensated outlays for health care provided to Georgia illegal aliens is estimated to be 210 million. I have no doubt that Georgia residents pay more for medical insurance due to illegals visiting emergency rooms but I suspect Georgia insurance premiums are less than California.
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So, with a population around 10 million, that means that the average tax payer in the state of Georgia pays $21 per year for health care provided to illegal aliens.
 
Lando said:
At their core they are lonely. Their political tribe is all they have. They might pretend to have liberal friends but deep down they know they are tolerated at best. They are the people that get discussed on the drive to an event. They are always the subject of “Just ignore him, it’s only a few hours.” They look around church and see more and more empty pews. Gatherings of family and friends shrink a bit, as certain people never seem to be able to make it.

They aren’t completely alone, but they know their life could be better. And as their various communities shrink they fill the hole in their soul with Trump.
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Wow, that is absolutely the WORST take I’ve ever read about MAGA. I can laugh at the more extreme of MAGA and their devotion to Trump but your description of angry, bitter isolated folks is way off the mark. Most liberal writers who get out of their beltway bubble regularly report just how surprised they are to learn how nice and joyful the MAGA attendees are.
 
sringwal said:
So, with a population around 10 million, that means that the average tax payer in the state of Georgia pays $21 per year for health care provided to illegal aliens.
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Because we have an excellent Governor and Republican legislature that keep give aways under control and who don’t establish policies that encourage more illegal immigration into the state.
 
Ramrouser said:
Wow, that is absolutely the WORST take I’ve ever read about MAGA. I can laugh at the more extreme of MAGA and their devotion to Trump but your description of angry, bitter isolated folks is way off the mark. Most liberal writers who get out of their beltway bubble regularly report just how surprised they are to learn how nice and joyful the MAGA attendees are.
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I need to read that. So do my students.
 
Great. Point your students to the September 19, 2024 New York Times article by David French “What Liberals Miss About the MAGA Movement” where he opines that “one thing that liberals tend to miss about the MAGA movement is its underlying sense of community and its joy.” Lots of similar articles as well if you look for them.
 
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