Many Americans Say the Democratic Party Does Not Share Their Priorities

[ZenMode]

It’s reasonable to argue that transgender athletes should be barred from competing in sports against opponents who were born of a different sex. There’s certainly middle ground for compromise.

It’s entirely unreasonable to argue that gender affirming healthcare should be made illegal. There is no middle ground for compromise here. Healthcare is a basic human right, and it is nobody’s business but that of the individual patient and their physician. It certainly is not the business of any politicians.

Guess which one the Republicans are hellbent on eliminating?

To my knowledge, they only want to eliminate gender affirming care for children. That doesn't seem entirely unreasonable. You could argue that a teenager may not be able to fully understand the ramifications for serious, not easily fixed changes.

 

[Shenanigans]

To my knowledge, they only want to eliminate gender affirming care for children. That doesn't seem entirely unreasonable. You could argue that a teenager may not be able to fully understand the ramifications for serious, not easily fixed changes.

I could argue that you are a moron who needs a lobotomy. I know you better, than you have ever known a trans person and their feelings

 

[CFordUNC]

To my knowledge, they only want to eliminate gender affirming care for children. That doesn't seem entirely unreasonable. You could argue that a teenager may not be able to fully understand the ramifications for serious, not easily fixed changes.

It’s not just children or teenagers. They want to restrict it for adults, as well.

As a conservative, I steadfastly believe that neither government nor politicians nor anyone other than a physician, the patient, and if applicable the parents of the patient, should have any say whatsoever as to what kind of healthcare they receive.

Efforts to restrict transgender health care endure in 2024, with more adults targeted

LGBTQ+ advocates say that most of the states inclined to pass bans on gender-affirming care have done so.

apnews.com

 

[Centerpiece]

I don't owe you shit super. Let's get that out of the way. GFY

Whoa. Seems as if someone should re-read the decorum poast from Rock.

A poast that was probably directed toward me at the time... (I'm not proud of that fact).

Shenanigans: Do you know about the purposeful misspelling of "poast"? I'm assuming you probably do... just checking.

 

[BillOfRights]

And people like you, Hillary, Biden are why POS like Trump win. Calling Americans bigots for wanting a secure border and not buying into the stupidity of "well, a man CAN have kids" is just digging your hole deeper.

If Rs would have ran a quality candidate in 2024, the beating would have been significantly worse.

So people like you voted to destroy democracy, crash the economy, and join the axis of evil because you don't understand the gender of less than half of one percent of the population?

 

[Shenanigans]

Whoa. Seems as if someone should re-read the decorum poast from Rock.

A poast that was probably directed toward me at the time... (I'm not proud of that fact).

Shenanigans: Do you know about the purposeful misspelling of "poast"? I'm assuming you probably do... just checking.

Yes, I know about the purposeful misspelling of poast, and ant news, and amphibious and clevels special play. I responded politely to super often. I will respond at an appropriate level to others. He responded aggressively to me unprovoked several times. I don't owe him shit.

I asked super to leave it alone many times very nicely, I am here for a purpose that doesn't involve him. He is a talker, I need doers.

I am here to make fun of and trigger rubes, that's all.

 

[ChileG]

So people like you voted to destroy democracy, crash the economy, and join the axis of evil because you don't understand the gender of less than half of one percent of the population?

Yes, you got that exactly right.

 

[superrific]

Yes, I know about the purposeful misspelling of poast, and ant news, and amphibious and clevels special play. I responded politely to super often. I will respond at an appropriate level to others. He responded aggressively to me unprovoked several times. I don't owe him shit.

I asked super to leave it alone many times very nicely, I am here for a purpose that doesn't involve him. He is a talker, I need doers.

I am here to make fun of and trigger rubes, that's all.

And while you were on that quest, you insulted a man whose daughter is in the ICU, supposedly on her behalf. That's not unprovoked. That's you being a terrible person and deserving of every rebuke you get.

Mostly I ignore you, but when you're going personal against another poster who has done nothing to deserve it, while he is at his most vulnerable, you are going to be rebuked. I stand by everything I said. Now I am back to ignoring your dumb ass.

 

[CFordUNC]

I don't even know where to put this but here it is.

If this comes to pass, I reckon it will essentially all but end the board participation by our resident Trumpers.

 

[Centerpiece]

I don't even know where to put this but here it is.

If this comes to pass, I reckon it will essentially all but end the board participation by our resident Trumpers.

Finally

 

[Centerpiece]

Yes, I know about the purposeful misspelling of poast, and ant news, and amphibious and clevels special play. I responded politely to super often. I will respond at an appropriate level to others. He responded aggressively to me unprovoked several times. I don't owe him shit.

I asked super to leave it alone many times very nicely, I am here for a purpose that doesn't involve him. He is a talker, I need doers.

I am here to make fun of and trigger rubes, that's all.

Again I say re-read Rock’s decorum comments

 

[Shenanigans]

And while you were on that quest, you insulted a man whose daughter is in the ICU, supposedly on her behalf. That's not unprovoked. That's you being a terrible person and deserving of every rebuke you get.

Mostly I ignore you, but when you're going personal against another poster who has done nothing to deserve it, while he is at his most vulnerable, you are going to be rebuked. I stand by everything I said. Now I am back to ignoring your dumb ass.

I did not insult him. That is your perception. I was clear, directed and poignant in my communication. I apologized when necessary.

You responded to me many times prior to that unprovoked. You have not apologized once.

I am not your enemy. Ignoring me is the preferred suggestion.

I am anything but dumb, adjust your meter.

GFY

 

[Shenanigans]

Again I say re-read Rock’s decorum comments

OK fine, my decorum with super has been polite. I don't respect rubes, much less consider them worthy of anything. They have caused the impending war.

I will treat them the exact same way from now until eternity. Like nothing, cockroaches to be squashed

 

[ZenMode]

It’s not just children or teenagers. They want to restrict it for adults, as well.

As a conservative, I steadfastly believe that neither government nor politicians nor anyone other than a physician, the patient, and if applicable the parents of the patient, should have any say whatsoever as to what kind of healthcare they receive.

Efforts to restrict transgender health care endure in 2024, with more adults targeted

LGBTQ+ advocates say that most of the states inclined to pass bans on gender-affirming care have done so.

apnews.com

The article is somewhat unclear on what exactly is being restricted. It references a care team of some sort. Either way, restricting adults should be unacceptable.

Again, even taking the side against children having gender affirming surgery or saying trans men aren't men gets you automatically labeled a bigot, transphobe, etc.

 

[CFordUNC]

The article is somewhat unclear on what exactly is being restricted. It references a care team of some sort. Either way, restricting adults should be unacceptable.

Again, even taking the side against children having gender affirming surgery or saying trans men aren't men gets you automatically labeled a bigot, transphobe, etc.

Just to be clear, I haven't ever labeled someone a bigot or a transphobe for being fundamentally opposed to gender affirming healthcare for youth, and I never will. I understand that it's a valid opinion, even if it's one with which I disagree. I just personally do not think that health care decisions belong in the hands of government or politicians, period. And I also think that anyone who wants gender affirming care banned, even when it does not personalyl affect them or impact them in any way, is extremely selfish. But I'm not going to call them bigoted or transphobic.

 

[Centerpiece]

OK fine, my decorum with super has been polite. I don't respect rubes, much less consider them worthy of anything. They have caused the impending war.

I will treat them the exact same way from now until eternity. Like nothing, cockroaches to be squashed

I guess calling people rubes and telling them to GFY is polite?

 

[Shenanigans]

I guess calling people rubes and telling them to GFY is polite?

Calling people rubes is preferred. It will help save democracy, really important!

Super told me to GFY first, I responded in kind. I was quite polite prior to that. I am an asshole, but I will be worse once you show me your priorities are eskew.

Hope this helps

 

[Centerpiece]

Calling people rubes is preferred. It will help save democracy, really important!

Super told me to GFY first, I responded in kind. I was quite polite prior to that. I am an asshole, but I will be worse once you show me your priorities are eskew.

Hope this helps

Well… I’m an asshole too. At least that’s what my wife tells me. She’s usually right about most things. I have no reason to doubt her on this one.

 

[eternalheel]

So people like you voted to destroy democracy, crash the economy, and join the axis of evil because you don't understand the gender of less than half of one percent of the population?

Merely one of 'their' matrix style exit ramps.

 

[Shenanigans]

Just to be clear, I haven't ever labeled someone a bigot or a transphobe for being fundamentally opposed to gender affirming healthcare for youth, and I never will. I understand that it's a valid opinion, even if it's one with which I disagree. I just personally do not think that health care decisions belong in the hands of government or politicians, period. And I also think that anyone who wants gender affirming care banned, even when it does not personalyl affect them or impact them in any way, is extremely selfish. But I'm not going to call them bigoted or transphobic.

Cford. This is the kind of thing I am referring to.

You are trying to be polite and respectful, and you do a pretty good job. But the thing is, you are respecting the bigots, while not caring about a child who actually feels trans. At age 15, let's say, they know. Who they are attracted to, what they want to wear, etc.

But people like Zen, based on almost entirely on right wing propaganda, want to negatively affect their lives. For NO REASON.

Most people who claim gender affirming teenage care is harmful haven't met a single trans person. Almost 000001% have met one who regrets a transition.

This is all right wing solutions to a problem that doesn't exist, the comprehensive platform of conservatives for about 40 years, since Fox News indoctrination began.

Why do you think that is? I'll tell you. For votes, for instilling fear in the populace, and for instilling permanent conservative rule for the rest of our lives.

I plan on doing something about it. I hope eventually you will too.