Many Americans Say the Democratic Party Does Not Share Their Priorities

[Callatoroy]

Dems have no leadership. Jasmin Crocket and JB Pritzker appear to have a pulse, though.

American actually agree with Dems POLICIES.

Dems have milquetoasted their response against mis/disinformation.

Lol you think saying fuck off = leadership? You guys have leaders but you seem to focus on the wrong ones.

 

[Callatoroy]

I cannot possibly beg the Republican Party enough to run on the transgender issue next fall, when inflation is at 8%, unemployment is at 6%, GDP growth is backpedaling faster than a defensive back trying not to get beat over the top, and we’re in the deepest and most prolonged recession in decades all because of Trump’s braindead economic policies. Cannot beg them enough. Please do it, Pubs. We believe in you! Tell MeeMaw and PeePaw that they might have lost their Medicaid and their disability and their veterans benefits and their cheap prescriptions, but by golly those four or five transgender people don’t get to play sports!

Cannot. beg. them. enough.

If that happens then you may have a point. Until then, you guys seem to mis every single chance to show you have an ounce of common sense. Today was just another example of shooting yourselves ti the ass.

 

[wmheel1287]

Blaming? I’m celebrating today’s vote. An overwhelming majority support the ban but every dem senator voted against it. That’s gold for the midterms. And since this thread is about the dem party being out of touch, this was just another example.

So, you don't actually care about the issues? Or at least this one in particular? I'm trying to figure out where on the hypocrisy scale this registers. This does give an awful lot of insight into why you thought we would all be happy about the way the Trump/Vance/Zelinski meltdown went.

Newsflash...my brain isn't controlled by party based animus the way yours is.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

I cannot possibly beg the Republican Party enough to run on the transgender issue next fall, when inflation is at 8%, unemployment is at 6%, GDP growth is backpedaling faster than a defensive back trying not to get beat over the top, and we’re in the deepest and most prolonged recession in decades all because of Trump’s braindead economic policies. Cannot beg them enough. Please do it, Pubs. We believe in you! Tell MeeMaw and PeePaw that they might have lost their Medicaid and their disability and their veterans benefits and their cheap prescriptions, but by golly those four or five transgender people don’t get to play sports!

Cannot. beg. them. enough.

Oh they absolutely will, I guarantee you. That's what they've really been running on for decades - culture war issues. "Maybe you've lost your home and are living out of your fifteen-year old car going from town to town begging for work, and we've cut the social safety net so there's nothing for you to fall back on, but look over here at this transgender person! Your family is starving, but it's all worth it to keep this person from playing women's sports, ain't it?"

 

[Mulberry Heel]

Dems have no leadership. Jasmin Crocket and JB Pritzker appear to have a pulse, though.

American actually agree with Dems POLICIES.

Dems have milquetoasted their response against mis/disinformation.

Agreed, the Democratic leadership response to all of this has been disappointing to say the least. I'm sure some will say they're playing the long game and just letting the Republicans dig their own grave, but to be honest I don't think they're capable of doing that. I think they've been mostly silent because they're as frightened and intimidated as Congressional Republicans and have no real response. A few weeks ago there was a news article about Congressional Democrats which said they had just been "overwhelmed" by Trump's EOs and publicity blitz and were still trying to work out some kind of response. How could they not have known that something like this was going to happen - it was out there for everyone to see (Project 2025, DOGE, etc.) Thank God for people like AOC and Pritzker and Chris Murphy who have been out there making some strong statements and forcefully pointing out what's going on.

 

[Zoo_View]

“….Thank God for people like AOC and Pritzker and Chris Murphy who have been out there making some strong statements and forcefully pointing out what's going on.”

Your last sentence exemplifies why the Democrats don’t have a unified message countering Trump, Musk, and Project 2025.

You’ve cited a congresswoman, a Senator, and a Governor. None of them are party leaders. The Democrats don’t hold the Speaker’s Office or the Senate Majority Leader.

No Democratic governor or senator is a national figure. The Democratic opposition will be dozens or hundreds of voices.

It’s the nature of being the opposition party. Add that to Trump being 24/7 news and who will surface as the Democratic leader?

It’ll be the person who wins the Democratic nomination in 2028.

 

[Shenanigans]

Point the finger where it belongs. I haven’t attacked anyone

Lol, fuck your feelings.

You will feel my warm poo, promise

I understand enough to know that the voters in your party repeatedly talk about how out of touch their representatives are and this is just another example of that. And that your party’s messaging is shit so I’m good with the way the vote went down because:

Kamala is for they/them. President Trump is for you” has instantly taken its place alongside the most effective political slogans in American election history, with “Morning in America”, the iconic ad that launched Ronald Reagan’s 1984 campaign and Barack Obama’s 2008 slogan: “Yes We Can”.

Once again, as I have said before, Kamala didn't mention trans people (people who actually exist, less than 1% of the population) once during her campaign.

Guess who did. Trump nonstop. Because he knew stupid rubes exactly like you would lap it up like Ralphie drinking Ovaltine.

You acknowledging the existence of a marginalized group has to be like Columbus discovering America. Shocked to a level that your rube brain can't comprehend.

You are a culture war bitch, who cries wolf incessantly.

 

[HintonJamesHeel]

Democrats are the party that’s good at governing but so so so so bad at messaging. Because they are so bad at messaging, nothing else matters.

To the majority of the country right now, they are a party focused on letting men play women’s sports, pro-Palestine and the party fighting against funding fraud in the federal government.

They need a leader who can be the point person to communicate why those are inaccurate but unfortunately they do not have that.

 

[MOUNTAINH33L]

Lol, fuck your feelings.

You will feel my warm

Once again, as I have said before, Kamala didn't mention trans people (people who actually exist, less than 1% of the population) once during her campaign.

Guess who did. Trump nonstop. Because he knew stupid rubes exactly like you would lap it up like Ralphie drinking Ovaltine.

You acknowledging the existence of a marginalized group has to be like Columbus discovering America. Shocked to a level that your rube brain can't comprehend.

You are a culture war bitch, who cries wolf incessantly.

That commercial about the tax payer funded sex changes for prisoners was a real motherfucker. Folks were all up in a tizzy about it. I'll give the fascists some credit. They nailed that one. KAMALA IS FOR THEY/THEM. TRUMP IS FOR YOU. Those of us who aren't in the cult know that Trump is, in fact, not for you. Trump is for Trump. Trump is for Elon and most certainly without a shadow of a doubt Trump is for Putin (his daddy). Still, it was an effective political ad. Between the millions AND MILLIONS of transgender prisoners having tax payer funded sex changes and those goddamn expensive eggs we never stood a chance.

 

[Shenanigans]

That commercial about the tax payer funded sex changes for prisoners was a real motherfucker. Folks were all up in a tizzy about it. I'll give the fascists some credit. They nailed that one. KAMALA IS FOR THEY/THEM. TRUMP IS FOR YOU. Those of us who aren't in the cult know that Trump is, in fact, not for you. Trump is for Trump. Trump is for Elon and most certainly without a shadow of a doubt Trump is for Putin (his daddy). Still, it was an effective political ad. Between the millions AND MILLIONS of transgender prisoners having tax payer funded sex changes and those goddamn expensive eggs we never stood a chance.

Fascists are effective, I will grant them that. Rube brains are moldable, like play dough. I am almost 100% sure a war is coming. Once enough stupid rubes realize they have fucked themselves and everyone they know.

In about 2 years.

Be safe MOUNTAINH33L, I will look to the stars, and hope for your good fortune!

 

[altmin]

That commercial about the tax payer funded sex changes for prisoners was a real motherfucker. Folks were all up in a tizzy about it. I'll give the fascists some credit. They nailed that one. KAMALA IS FOR THEY/THEM. TRUMP IS FOR YOU. Those of us who aren't in the cult know that Trump is, in fact, not for you. Trump is for Trump. Trump is for Elon and most certainly without a shadow of a doubt Trump is for Putin (his daddy). Still, it was an effective political ad. Between the millions AND MILLIONS of transgender prisoners having tax payer funded sex changes and those goddamn expensive eggs we never stood a chance.

My cousin got into a still unresolved fight with my aunt the day after the Elon Musk Nazi salute. It ended up with my cousin saying, you realize these fascists want to take away all the rights from my sister in law, someone YOU have spent a lot of time with and you claim to love. My aunt replied "I can't believe you would choose trans people over your mother..."

 

[Shenanigans]

My cousin got into a still unresolved fight with my aunt the day after the Elon Musk Nazi salute. It ended up with my cousin saying, you realize these fascists want to take away all the rights from my sister in law, someone YOU have spent a lot of time with and you claim to love. My aunt replied "I can't believe you would choose trans people over your mother..."

This is the future. Choose everyone over the fascists. Tell them they are wrong, fucking despicable and are going to lose. I'm not sure of the time-line of their loss, but I hope to see it in the next 40 years

 

[HintonJamesHeel]

Go back to your right wing media so they can tell you that dems want men playing women's sports.

No one, absolutely no one, can help you without YOU wanting to help yourself. It's really that easy. Just stop being a rube.

The best cure is to go to your local library. Start reading almost anything, tax law, harry potter, whatever.

For the love of god, do anything to help your brain

Did you even read my post? I said it was inaccurate.

 

[4thgenheel]

Did you even read my post? I said it was inaccurate.

 

[Shenanigans]

Did you even read my post? I said it was inaccurate.

Yes, I read it. I disagree that the dems are bad at messaging. We are in a shitstorm of gop idiocracy right now, and nothing the dems do will matter, nothing, until enough rubes feel the pain of their life decisions.

You are not a rube, but since you know what motivates rubes, you must get out there ASAP and convince a few of them to not be morons.

Godspeed

 

[HintonJamesHeel]

Yes, I read it. I disagree that the dems are bad at messaging. We are in a shitstorm of gop idiocracy right now, and nothing the dems do will matter, nothing, until enough rubes feel the pain of their life decisions.

You are not a rube, but since you know what motivates rubes, you must get out there ASAP and convince a few of them to not be morons.

Godspeed

They are bad at messaging. The prisoner taxpayer funded trans-surgery ad won Trump the election. That’s insane to say but the polling is clear.

Reportedly, Bill Clinton saw that ad one time and told the Harris campaign they had to combat it asap or they would lose. They ignore him.

Bad messaging….

 

[UNCatTech]

The article is somewhat unclear on what exactly is being restricted. It references a care team of some sort. Either way, restricting adults should be unacceptable.

Again, even taking the side against children having gender affirming surgery or saying trans men aren't men gets you automatically labeled a bigot, transphobe, etc.

This is part of your problem. You've not learned from history that the pubs will start with restrictions they can get some level of agreement on, but they never stop. Once they have their toe in the door they keep pushing until they have the door off its hinges.

They started by getting people, like you, to buy into there being a problem with 1 trans girl among millions of cis women wanting to play sports. Now they are basically working toward trying to eradicate trans people from existence. And they owe it all yo the people like you, who were so short sighted you missed the forest because of the tree.

Just look at their history. Yelling and protesting about family values while protecting pedophiles. Outraged about legislating from the bench while slowly inserting judges into the best places in order to legislate from the bench.

 

[ZenMode]

This is part of your problem. You've not learned from history that the pubs will start with restrictions they can get some level of agreement on, but they never stop. Once they have their toe in the door they keep pushing until they have the door off its hinges.

They started by getting people, like you, to buy into there being a problem with 1 trans girl among millions of cis women wanting to play sports. Now they are basically working toward trying to eradicate trans people from existence. And they owe it all yo the people like you, who were so short sighted you missed the forest because of the tree.

Just look at their history. Yelling and protesting about family values while protecting pedophiles. Outraged about legislating from the bench while slowly inserting judges into the best places in order to legislate from the bench.

I'm not disputing what some Republicans would do if given the chance. I'm just saying, among other things, not supporting males in female sports doesn't make you a transphobe. Not supporting nearly irreversible surgery for teenagers also doesn't make you a transphobe. Not supporting DEi initiatives doesn't make you a bigot/racist, etc.

 

[CRHeel94]

Biden admin was terrible at messaging their accomplishments. I'm still astonished Biden didn't announce in '23 that he would be a 1 termer: plenty of the blame lies at the feet of his inner circle.

The Dems need to pick their battles with Trump and not bite on every head fake.

 

[superrific]

They are bad at messaging. The prisoner taxpayer funded trans-surgery ad won Trump the election. That’s insane to say but the polling is clear.

Reportedly, Bill Clinton saw that ad one time and told the Harris campaign they had to combat it asap or they would lose. They ignore him.

Bad messaging….

Whether or not they are actually bad at messaging, the bigger problem is that right-wingers sit in their reality bubbles and construct wholly fantastical images of Dems. Then they come out with that bullshit into the media, and when the media pushes back on the idea, let's say, that kids go to school and then come home three days later with a sex change operation, the right-wingers scream "unfair! bias!" The media, being a for-profit industry, at least attempts to placate these voices somewhat and what we end up with is a sort of sanewashed disinformation system.

None of that has anything to do with Dems. Dems play no role in that narrative. The best the Dems can do is point out the lies, but people don't want to hear it. It's obvious that voters aren't moved by fact checks.

The other alternative is for Dems to play the same game. It doesn't work as well for us, though, because of asymmetries. The Pubs want people to hate government, so it serves their purposes for elected officials to be idiots and assholes. The Dems want to use government to help people, which makes the sort of intentional lying and gaslighting strategy of the Pubs a non-starter.

Which brings us to the ultimate factor: Dems will win when Pubs fuck everything up. And then, for some reason, voters forget about all the previous fuckups. Maybe this time they will remember because the demarcation line is so strong. The economy was great until now. The policies that are hurting it are the exact ones Trump brags about. Eventually everyone is going to say, fuck these tariffs and fuck everyone who foisted them on me.

But this strategy doesn't help Dems keep power after getting it. It just goes back through the wringer. The problem is that the lies should be illegal. They aren't because the Supreme Court believed that in a fair marketplace of ideas, the best ideas come out on top. Now that's been completely debunked, and I'd really like to see more attention paid to lies. Not with this Court or this Congress, of course.