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lawtig02 said:
I’m getting very worried about the trends we’re seeing in Gen Z, especially the young men currently in their late teens and twenties. The Joe Rogans of the world are doing a number on them, and I’m not as confident as I was a couple of years ago that young people will continue to move us forward on issues like racial and gender equity.
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You are absolutely correct.
 
It's all about them finding someone to "follow" in a very online world post high school, when young men are out on their own. And whoever fills that void is the number 1 influencer.
 
rodoheel said:
The "red-pilling" of young men is a huge problem moving forward. Those graphs that show the sharply diverging political identities between male and female high schoolers are really concerning. Young men and women will barely be talking to each other in a decade because their attitudes, philosophies, and world views are so different. Peer pressure and social media algorithms are creating a douchebag pipeline the likes of which we've never seen before, and I don't really know how to stop it.
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I’ve been thinking about starting my own series to try to get young men off this path, but idk how I’d even go about it.
 
Paine said:
I’ve been thinking about starting my own series to try to get young men off this path, but idk how I’d even go about it.
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I found this article interesting before on a very similar topic...

www.gq-magazine.co.uk

Meet the anti-Andrew Tates

A handful of influencers are trying to turn the tide on toxic masculinity. But can they get anyone to listen?
www.gq-magazine.co.uk www.gq-magazine.co.uk
 
Prior coverage of Robinson's fascination with Hitler and Nazis:


North Carolina lt. governor quoted Hitler in newly unearthed social media posts
Mark Robinson, the leading GOP candidate for governor, also likened the toppling of a Confederate statue to Kristallnacht, among other incendiary remarks

jewishinsider.com

North Carolina lt. governor quoted Hitler in newly unearthed social media posts

Mark Robinson, the leading GOP candidate for governor,— also likened the toppling of a Confederate statue to Kristallnacht, among other incendiary remarks
jewishinsider.com jewishinsider.com

politicalwire.com

Trump Risks Being Doomed by Ally in North Carolina

The deadline for dropping out of the North Carolina governor's race was last night, which means Mark Robinson (R) remains the Republican candidate.Robinson was already one of the worst candidates put up in decades.He's a Holocaust denier, said the Pearl Harbor attack was an inside job, attac
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When rumors started flying yesterday that CNN had uncovered some terrible comments he made online, my first thought was: How could it be any worse?

Well, it was worse:
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Paine said:
I’ve been thinking about starting my own series to try to get young men off this path, but idk how I’d even go about it.
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I want to be careful how I say this because what’s happening with young men is NOT the fault of anything women have done and it’s not women’s responsibility to fix it, but I’m hoping this recent wave will recede a bit when these men realize women don’t really want to be with assholes. If you want a good relationship with a woman, children, etc., you can’t model your life on bro culture.
 
Paine said:
I’ve been thinking about starting my own series to try to get young men off this path, but idk how I’d even go about it.
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One of the reasons I was happy with Walz as VP pick is because he's the perfect kind of role model for young men in this regard - an embodiment of the type of male values that the MAGA movement has discarded and derided (honesty, compassion, grace, selflessness) in favor of the cartoonish, swaggering faux machismo that Trump himself embodies so well. But most of them are so far gone that they simply deride him as a "beta male" and "loser" and laughingly repost those incredibly creepy horse memes of which Don Jr. is so fond.
 
lawtig02 said:
I want to be careful how I say this because what’s happening with young men is NOT the fault of anything women have done and it’s not women’s responsibility to fix it, but I’m hoping this recent wave will recede a bit when these men realize women don’t really want to be with assholes. If you want a good relationship with a woman, children, etc., you can’t model your life on bro culture.
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I think a major issue is that a lot of young guys have a catch-22 going on when it comes to women...

- They don't know how to interact with women, they get rejected, they look online for help
- The influencers they find like Andrew Tate & friends only make things worse for them by giving them bad advice
- They face further rejection because now they act like bro culture teaches
- They go further down the bro culture hole because it tells them it's not their fault
- They become even more someone that most women don't want to date
- They are driven even further into bro culture

I'm not sure how you fix it, especially now that so many young guys have gotten into bro culture and share it amongst themselves.
 
lawtig02 said:
I want to be careful how I say this because what’s happening with young men is NOT the fault of anything women have done and it’s not women’s responsibility to fix it, but I’m hoping this recent wave will recede a bit when these men realize women don’t really want to be with assholes. If you want a good relationship with a woman, children, etc., you can’t model your life on bro culture.
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Yeah the way all these douchebro influencers talk about women and relationships is so disturbing. They basically have these kids believing that every women, whatever she says publicly, secretly wants to be barefoot and pregnant playing house for a true ALPHA who makes all the money, makes all the decisions, and leaves the child-rearing and house-maintaining to the woman (while feeling free to go around cheating on his wife at will). They also talk constantly about how to get women to bang you but then will deride women who actually have the casual sex they're encouraging these guys to seek out as "low-value" women. it's such a blatantly self-defeating, misogynistic view of sex and relationships, and when women recoil from the men it creates they just convince themselves that it must be the women who are the problem, because they're convinced that they're the alpha that every women should really want.
 
lawtig02 said:
I want to be careful how I say this because what’s happening with young men is NOT the fault of anything women have done and it’s not women’s responsibility to fix it, but I’m hoping this recent wave will recede a bit when these men realize women don’t really want to be with assholes. If you want a good relationship with a woman, children, etc., you can’t model your life on bro culture.
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What young men have to do a better job of in the future is putting value on real world desirable traits in the women they pursue. Have to stop lifting up the toxic, vapid, Instagram/influencer type personality that is pervasive today. Of course a woman like that is not going to value the average guy...stop chasing them. Value decency, honesty, kindness etc etc. Was a hard lesson for me to learn!
 
Paine said:
Theo is one of the better bro culture adjacent influencers IMO. He’s not outwardly toxic in the way the Tates of the world are.
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"Better than Andrew Tate" is not much of a high bar to clear, but he is certainly better in terms of the "toxic male" aspect. But he had Trump on his podcast a few weeks ago and credulously fawned all over whatever Trump said. He's got the same problem as Rogan in that he's willing to let anyone on earth say whatever they want and not only will he not challenge it, he'll basically say "hell yeah brother." I like the positive attitude but part of the problem with this male podcast culture is the idea that all opinions, no matter how uninformed or harmful, are equally valid. It very much contributes to the "vibes over facts" approach to politics that is pervasive today.
 
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