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NC Supreme Court race - Riggs ahead +734 | Griffin loses in Fed Court, Concedes

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Burgawnc said:
Help me to understand this: if X amounts of votes are thrown out in the election contest of Alison Riggs and Jefferson Griffin, citing the ballots are irregular, the why are the same "irregular" ballots not thrown out for all contest in the same district. Perhaps, the rejected ballots may cause other (R) candidates to lose?
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As best as I can understand the logic, none of the candidates in those other elections complained (nor would it have likely made a difference). That appears to be the logic for the other counties, too. Riggs didn’t complain about the Republican ballots.

In retrospect, Riggs should have launched a prophylactic objection to every ballot in NC on the same grounds as Griffin.
 
Calheel said:
As best as I can understand the logic, none of the candidates in those other elections complained (nor would it have likely made a difference). That appears to be the logic for the other counties, too. Riggs didn’t complain about the Republican ballots.

In retrospect, Riggs should have launched a prophylactic objection to every ballot in NC on the same grounds as Griffin.
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I think I said this earlier but without the reference to condoms. 😎
 
Calheel said:
As best as I can understand the logic, none of the candidates in those other elections complained (nor would it have likely made a difference). That appears to be the logic for the other counties, too. Riggs didn’t complain about the Republican ballots.

In retrospect, Riggs should have launched a prophylactic objection to every ballot in NC on the same grounds as Griffin.
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Yeah, it's simply a procedural thing. There's an election challenge in front of the court, filed by Griffin. They are resolving that challenge.

That doesn't justify any of that bullshit.
 


“… What happens now is that things will slow down. The trial court will decide if Justice Riggs has a good constitutional case on the merits. Whoever loses that will likely appeal to the Fourth Circuit (likely before a different panel, if today’s order was from a motion’s panel), with the case potentially ending up at the Supreme Court. I expect things will continue to be expedited, but it will take months more to fully resolve.”


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The good thing is the DNC now knows the ballots that are going to be targeted should the federal courts not find in their favor. I assume they are working behind the scenes to ensure enough of those ballots can be "cured" to avoid the election being overturned. This whole thing has been nothing but shenanigans, JG has absolutely ruined his family name, despicable human being.
 
Regardless of what happens, through his shenanigans, Griffin has really set himself up for some powerful attack ads should he run for public office again.

“Jefferson Griffin fought hard to have the votes of the men and women who serve our country in the armed forces thrown out and not counted….
…Jefferson Griffin: anti-U.S. military, anti-democracy, anti-the American Way.”
 
Icky Mettle said:
Regardless of what happens, through his shenanigans, Griffin has really set himself up for some powerful attack ads should he run for public office again.

“Jefferson Griffin fought hard to have the votes of the men and women who serve our country in the armed forces thrown out and not counted….
…Jefferson Griffin: anti-U.S. military, anti-democracy, anti-the American Way.”
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Possibly. I'm sure they happen but I can't ever remember a TV ad for a judge's race. Then again, they may happen all the time and they just all blur together. It would certainly be powerful if there's enough money and interest to get it out there.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Possibly. I'm sure they happen but I can't ever remember a TV ad for a judge's race. Then again, they may happen all the time and they just all blur together. It would certainly be powerful if there's enough money and interest to get it out there.
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I’ve seen a few, though not in this past election cycle.
 

A Lengthy Legal Battle in North Carolina Could Show How to Flip an Election​

Even as Republicans suffer setbacks in their fight to overturn a loss in a State Supreme Court race, judges have shown a striking willingness to entertain the long-shot challenges.


🎁 🔗—> A Lengthy Legal Battle in North Carolina Could Show How to Flip an Election

“… even if the Democratic candidate’s victory is not reversed, the battle may have sketched a blueprint for overturning future elections.

Never before, legal experts from both parties say, has a losing candidate gained so much legal traction in trying to nullify votes cast by people who followed every instruction given to them, both when they registered to vote and when they submitted their ballots. Federal and state judges have shown a willingness to entertain Republican challenges of votes in Democratic-leaning areas that focused on technicalities and sought to reinterpret voting laws long after Election Day.

… “The stakes are far greater than one seat on the State Supreme Court,” said Bob Orr, who served on the North Carolina Supreme Court as a Republican but has since left the party to become unaffiliated. He likened some of the recent judicial decisions clearing a path for votes to be tossed out retroactively to “opening up a Pandora’s box.”

“You’ve got a set of rules, and you don’t wait until the ballgame is over and then say, ‘Oh, by the way, I think we need to change the rules and change the score,’” Mr. Orr added….”
 
Icky Mettle said:
Is it over? (Judge Myers orders N.C. to certify Riggs as winner.):

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I’m (pleasantly) surprised that Myers did this after he basically punted the last time he had the case in front of him. But it’s definitely not over; that order is sure to be appealed.
 
rodoheel said:
I’m (pleasantly) surprised that Myers did this after he basically punted the last time he had the case in front of him. But it’s definitely not over; that order is sure to be appealed.
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I say this without even reading the order, but there’s a less than 5% chance the 4th Circuit reverses this.
 
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