OFFICIAL ELECTION RESULTS - POTUS | TRUMP ELECTED 47th President

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Yes, that was the tipping point that made people vote for a narcissistic liar, cheat, crook, and convicted felon that tried to overthrow an election and bragged about sexually assaulting women.
Yeah campaigning with a family member of someone with more blood on their hands than anyone alive… not smart. People remember the Cheney name.

Lots of mistakes were made in this campaign. People who think she ran a perfect one were living in a bubble.

Shouldn’t have even been the candidate.
 
That’s fine, I don’t care about charisma, that’s not something that affects presidential decision making. I like her strong demeanor, empathy and decision making skills.
I agree but apparently there are a lot of others that don't. People vote for politicians, not technocrats. If we happen to get both in the same package, its a lucky accident, but you have to be an extraordinary politician to win.
 
Yeah campaigning with a family member of someone with more blood on their hands than anyone alive… not smart. People remember the Cheney name.

Lots of mistakes were made in this campaign. People who think she ran a perfect one were living in a bubble.

Shouldn’t have even been the candidate.
The candidate didn’t matter. Can’t you all see that? Trump didn’t even try to win cause he didn’t need to.
 
I agree but apparently there are a lot of others that don't. People vote for politicians, not technocrats. If we happen to get both in the same package, its a lucky accident, but you have to be an extraordinary politician to win.
People vote for who people tell them to. The technocrats and the media.

You guys are living in the past if you don’t see what’s happened. Everything is owned by a few and they control what you see.
 
It matters on the margins, which is where this was decided.
Exactly. Nobody was getting the MAGA vote but putting up a fucking CHENEY on stage with you for weeks was not the way to get undecideds, libertarians, independents, etc.
 
Exactly. Nobody was getting the MAGA vote but putting up a fucking CHENEY on stage with you for weeks was not the way to get undecideds, libertarians, independents, etc.
All those libertarians, indies and undecideds were voting for trump regardless. It all boils down to voting for a woman and our country isn’t ready for it yet.
 
Yeah campaigning with a family member of someone with more blood on their hands than anyone alive… not smart. People remember the Cheney name.

Lots of mistakes were made in this campaign. People who think she ran a perfect one were living in a bubble.

Shouldn’t have even been the candidate.
Almoat anyone could have been the candidate and it should have been enough. It isn't who the Dems had or didn't have. It wasn't Cheney. It's half the population are too stupid, racist, bigoted, and/or greedy that they would still elect Trump. This country is screwed because of that. No sensible society would want someone like Trump as President.
 
Exactly. Nobody was getting the MAGA vote but putting up a fucking CHENEY on stage with you for weeks was not the way to get undecideds, libertarians, independents, etc.
lol at the idea that there are undecideds out there that are watching the campaign that closely.

You do realize that trump tried to lose these past 3 weeks and it didn’t matter. It’s long been in the tank.
 
Biden and Hilary beat Bernie in rigged primaries.

Bernie 2016 and MAGA movement would’ve been stopped before it began
Bernie I think had a better shot than Hillary in 2016 for sure. Biden was what we needed in 2020 I think and I was very excited for Harris now. The big difference is her genitals.
 
No, not like those. Those are not progressive populist policies.

I’m talking about proposals that are easy to understand and would impact people immediately.

Medicare for All
Universal pre-K
Paid family leave
Tuition free college and trade schools
Support for unions
Higher taxes on the wealthy

Some of these polices Harris did propose, but she did not make it the central piece of her campaign. She talked much more about protecting democracy. No one who doesn’t follow politics obsessively knows wtf that means.
She did at first, but Jen O'Malley let the donor class make some decisions on policy
 
We’re genuinely fucked.

We’ve got assholes like Paine all up in their feels like appealing to the left fringe in a moderate country is a winning solution. Because yeah, that’d definitely gain more support among the minority bloc, particularly among the hisoanic/latin folks whove gravitated to the right given their own recent experiences with extreme leftist governments.
Biden and Hilary beat Bernie in rigged primaries.

Bernie 2016 and MAGA movement would’ve been stopped before it began
There is zero evidence to support this and a boatload of evidence to suggest a Trump runaway victory worse than anything that happens now.

You people are so dumb.
 
Almoat anyone could have been the candidate and it should have been enough. It isn't who the Dems had or didn't have. It wasn't Cheney. It's half the population are too stupid, racist, bigoted, and/or greedy that they would still elect Trump. This country is screwed because of that. No sensible society would want someone like Trump as President.
It was her race
It was her gender
It was her connection to Biden
It was her sudden manufactured rise to popularity after 3.5 years of playing solitaire as VP that independents didn’t buy
It was Cheney
It was deciding to not go on Rogan and letting Trump/Vance/Elon clown on her for being afraid to do it
It was installing her after Biden was exposed as a vegetable after MSM and all said he was “sharp as a tack”
It was her WEAK ASS PICK of a VP’s extended family all going for Trump

I could keep going but…

The margins are thin. Put up the best candidate and run the campaign intending to get EVERY. POSSIBLE. VOTE. Put up a straight white guy and get it done. This is the new Hitler we’re talking about.
 
Biden and Hilary beat Bernie in rigged primaries.

Bernie 2016 and MAGA movement would’ve been stopped before it began

Yep. Idk if O’Malley Dillon was solely responsible for it, but it was political malpractice to switch from the strategy Kamala had pre convention to the strategy she took post convention.

Post convention felt like the same game plane they had if Biden was the nominee.
It is hilarious that you think policy was the issue.

You obviously haven’t been aware of the misinformation campaign waged on every since media outlet and Facebook and twitter post
 
Or maybe this was an economic referendum election and Democrats failed to get a winning economic message across?

Just a thought. Y’all are going to continue to believe whatever.
The utter lack of awareness and logic from CF and others is astounding to me. Like incomprehensible. I'm going to explain why you lost the election against one of the most unlikable people to ever participate in politics and it has nothing to do with her lack of a penis or color of her skin. Had the R candidate been anyone else this would have been a massacre.

1) Harris is not intelligent and it is evident in the fact that she has zero command of the issues and can't conduct a competent interview. It isn't by accident she was kept off of Rogan and hid from most serious journalists.
2) She was by far the most left wing flaming liberal to ever be the nominee. She couldn't hide from her past. Thankfully a majority of the country doesn't agree with her. If you agree with her past admitted positions then you are not in the same universe as most of the country.
3) You guys love to throw out trump being a threat to democracy yet your candidate was hand chosen and never received a single primary vote. That doesn't seem to bother almost all on here which is pure hypocrisy. You can't scream fascist and then flout the democratic process without being a hypocrite. I know the irony is lost on most of you. Many fence sitters understand that and the process your side chose to trash brandon and make another really terrible diversity hire rather than following the political process cost your side because a much stronger candidate likely would have emerged. Identity politics bit you in the ass, as it should.
4) Your weak attempt to shore up the border just before the election was, well, weak and totally transparent. It fooled nobody and contrary to many on here most Americans are in favor of borders and legal immigration. Your plan for all the illegal immigrants to become future dem voters lacked any semblance of subtlety. It was likely the 2nd most important issue in the election (behind the economy) and your side likely still doesn't get it.
5) She is as weak, or weaker as brandon on foreign policy. Russia invades Ukraine, Israel attacked, and if she had won I sincerely believe China would have invaded Taiwan before her term would have ended. Whether you believe it or not, most feel she is to incompetent to navigate the current world situation.
6) She didn't get a pass for lying about the mental condition of brandon. In fairness though I don't know what she should have said. A no win situation. However, you and your party deserve to lose the election for lying about his condition, turning a blind eye to it, or just outright knowing it and lying about it.
(7) You were misled like sheep by your manipulative and corrupt media sources. The best thing you guys could do for yourselves and so that you have a freaking clue is to get away from MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, NYT, WaPo, and all the other fawning trash rags that are just pure DNC propaganda machines. You guys seriously thought you were winning due to bullshit polls reported in your media every damn day. How many times do you have to be lied to before you say enough?
(7) Over half the country, including the fence sitters are tired of the denigration, name calling, and insults you guys like to hurl at those who disagree with your political views. You guys are very much like trump in that regard. CF made a comment something to the effect of he just can't believe half the people in the country are trash, deplorables, worthless (not his words but you get the gist) and that he was sorry for his kids that they had to live in a country with those people. People, including undecideds are tired of it and it completely turns voters off to your message. It got trump elected the first time and it played a part this time. I'm actually sorry for his kids that they have a father who will teach them that message.

As you completely disregard and deny my explanation for why you lost, just ask yourself, "how in the hell did we lose an election to a 78 year old convicted felon, sexual predator, compulsive narcacissist and liar? The answer isn't remotely close to half the people are bad or dumb or sexist, or racist. It's because your candidate, message, agenda, and how you go about communicating it is a turn off. Has to be pretty fucked up to lose to donald trump right?
 
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