OFFICIAL ELECTION RESULTS - POTUS | TRUMP ELECTED 47th President

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Paine said:
I’m not saying to fuck anyone over. I’m simply saying that there are a ton of low informed voters. Trump spoke to them, Democrats failed to. So how do we reach them? Messaging has to change.
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Yes it’s the message.

Jesus Christ. You can promise rainbows and fucking unicorns but it isn’t getting through twitter and Facebook.

It’s like your being obtuse and not realizing the shit show we live in where the message does not matter.
 
Paine said:
I’m not saying to fuck anyone over. I’m simply saying that there are a ton of low informed voters. Trump spoke to them, Democrats failed to. So how do we reach them? Messaging has to change.
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Dems didn’t fail if they don’t want to listen. I can tell a two year old not to play in a fire but they may not listen. Trump tells them to go get in the fire and encourages them.
 
Paine said:
I’m not saying to fuck anyone over. I’m simply saying that there are a ton of low informed voters. Trump spoke to them, Democrats failed to. So how do we reach them? Messaging has to change.
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Are you proposing misogyny? Xenophobia? Racism? Islamophobia? Transphobia? Homophobia? Fearmongering? Hatred?

Because Trump didn’t propose anything else.
 
Zoo_View said:
Are you proposing misogyny? Xenophobia? Racism? Islamophobia? Transphobia? Homophobia? Fearmongering? Hatred?

Because Trump didn’t propose anything else.
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Nope, I’m proposing progressive populist policies that will materially improve people’s lives. I think people would respond to that, but we won’t know until the a Democratic Party has the balls to run an unapologetic progressive for president.
 
lightbluenc said:
For the record, I thought Kamala was a great candidate, she was my first choice in 2020 and I was ecstatic to have a prosecutor in office.
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I thought she was pretty poor. Better than Hillary, but just not charismatic enough for the top spot on the ticket.

Not her fault. Really Biden and his people's fault for not dropping out early. If he does, she gets a primary to hone her skills or get beat by a better politician.
 
Paine said:
Nope, I’m proposing progressive populist policies that will materially improve people’s lives. I think people would respond to that, but we won’t know until the a Democratic Party has the balls to run an unapologetic progressive for president.
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Like what?
 
gtyellowjacket said:
I thought she was pretty poor. Better than Hillary, but just not charismatic enough for the top spot on the ticket.

Not her fault. Really Biden and his people's fault for not dropping out early. If he does, she gets a primary to hone her skills or get beat by a better politician.
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Not charismatic enough compared to an old person suffering from dementia.

Let’s all just admit that the fix was in from the start. The rich wanted tax cuts and more money so that is what they are going to get
 
gtyellowjacket said:
I thought she was pretty poor. Better than Hillary, but just not charismatic enough for the top spot on the ticket.

Not her fault. Really Biden and his people's fault for not dropping out early. If he does, she gets a primary to hone her skills or get beat by a better politician.
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That’s fine, I don’t care about charisma, that’s not something that affects presidential decision making. I like her strong demeanor, empathy and decision making skills.
 
lightbluenc said:
Like child tax credits? 25k credit to new home buyers?
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No, not like those. Those are not progressive populist policies.

I’m talking about proposals that are easy to understand and would impact people immediately.

Medicare for All
Universal pre-K
Paid family leave
Tuition free college and trade schools
Support for unions
Higher taxes on the wealthy

Some of these polices Harris did propose, but she did not make it the central piece of her campaign. She talked much more about protecting democracy. No one who doesn’t follow politics obsessively knows wtf that means.
 
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