OMB freezes all disbursements / USAID shutdown / GOP begs for exceptions for their states

rodoheel said:
Hey guys I'm trying to figure out why the US would work to improve global health and fight the global spread of disease. I'm struggling to come up with an illustration of how transmissible diseases in other countries could impact US citizens. Can anyone help me out?
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you guys are so desperate. I get how feeling helpless leads to desperation.
 
Callatoroy said:
Actually yes, please keep going. Your rhetoric, while full of shit, is still just rhetoric. How much can you expand on it? Please incorporate how voting for a candidate that came to be a candidate by the least democratic process possible aligns with your conservative principles. It would be cool to if you could show how those principles help you juggle the sheer hypocrisy of trump's pardons vs biden's pardons that included violence. Don't leave out the part how your conservative principles and deep respect for the military align with our immense global leadership that led to 2 wars started under the term of the weakest (and sleepiest) potus ever and how our military can't meet it recruitment goals unless lowering the goals and how our navy is the weakest it has been in decades. I'm just struggling to see how your conservatism applies with voting for kamala. My personal opinion is that you can't separate conservatism from trump hatred and the hatred was stronger than your conservative principles.
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You are such an enormous hypocrite. How in the world can you not see that it is precisely because of caring about conservative principles that I hate Donald Trump, even after- especially after- voting for the motherfucker once. You have such a weird and bizarre inferiority complex and insecurity towards others, and I cannot figure it out. Your obsession and fixation with transgender people, in particular, is grotesque and something for which you should be deeply ashamed and humiliated. I know I’m humiliated for you. Your obsession and fixation upon Joe Biden, even weeks after he is no longer the president of the United States and never will be again, is quite frankly insane. But it’s easily explainable. Deep down you know that you are so goddamn full of shit and you know that you have completely forfeited every ounce of conservative principle that you may have ever had, so you are lashing out at both Joe Biden and people like me who call you out on your hypocrisy and your bullshit.

I don’t know who hurt you and how they did it, but you have some very deep seated issues that you probably need to work to resolve. The anger and vitriol that you have, even after having your preferred political party and your preferred presidential candidate win, is the craziest thing I’ve ever seen.
 
Oh, and calla, you want to know the main difference between you and almost every single other person on this board? Every single one of us would be in the streets with pitchforks raising holy hell if a democratic presidential administration was so openly skullfucking the entire constitutional order in broad daylight the way the Trump administration currently is. None of us would be here cheerleading it and ball washing it in as humiliating fashion as you are.
 
Callatoroy said:
Actually yes, please keep going. Your rhetoric, while full of shit, is still just rhetoric. How much can you expand on it? Please incorporate how voting for a candidate that came to be a candidate by the least democratic process possible aligns with your conservative principles. It would be cool to if you could show how those principles help you juggle the sheer hypocrisy of trump's pardons vs biden's pardons that included violence. Don't leave out the part how your conservative principles and deep respect for the military align with our immense global leadership that led to 2 wars started under the term of the weakest (and sleepiest) potus ever and how our military can't meet it recruitment goals unless lowering the goals and how our navy is the weakest it has been in decades. I'm just struggling to see how your conservatism applies with voting for kamala. My personal opinion is that you can't separate conservatism from trump hatred and the hatred was stronger than your conservative principles.
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Biden did not pardon any violent offenders. And even if he did, he certainly didn't do it after they had served less than 5% of their sentences. This is why everyone mocks you. You are literally unable to state your position without grossly distorting facts.

The only reason there's a "war" in Ukraine is that Biden didn't let Russia just walk all over Ukraine. That you cannot comprehend that YOU are the weakling, you are the one who is willing to let a blustery leader of a weak economy with an inefficient military commit war crimes in Europe on a vast scale for some inexplicable reason -- it's just bad. Literally, in your view, it is better for Russian soldiers to be wilding through Ukraine, raping women and killing children and elderly people, than for Ukraine to be resisting.

The Biden -> Harris complaint is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Hey, moron, what if Joe died? Should the Dems just not run a candidate? And what if Trump had been successfully killed? Should the Pubs have been like, "well, we can't hold primaries so let's just not run"? Of course the only reason you make this point is that you know your side is against democracy and was involved in an attempted coup (and seems to be literally carrying out one right now), and you don't like the optics of that so you try your standard playbook of "both sides are equally bad."

One side, motherfucker, and only one side, and it's your side, is looting the Treasury and inserting code written by teenagers named BigBalls into the payment systems of the government. One side, and it's your side and only your side, is trying to coalesce all power in an executive branch governed by the whims of lunatics at the top, with everyone below them as nothing but lackeys. That's YOU. That's not ME.

Anyone who hates tyranny has to hate Trump, because Trump is tyranny. He even told you that he was going to be a dictator, and you were all like, "eh." So fuck off. YOU did this. And the people who oppose YOU are doing so out of principle, because they hate tyranny.
 
CFordUNC said:
You are such an enormous hypocrite. How in the world can you not see that it is precisely because of caring about conservative principles that I hate Donald Trump, even after- especially after- voting for the motherfucker once. You have such a weird and bizarre inferiority complex and insecurity towards others, and I cannot figure it out. Your obsession and fixation with transgender people, in particular, is grotesque and something for which you should be deeply ashamed and humiliated. I know I’m humiliated for you. Your obsession and fixation upon Joe Biden, even weeks after he is no longer the president of the United States and never will be again, is quite frankly insane. But it’s easily explainable. Deep down you know that you are so goddamn full of shit and you know that you have completely forfeited every ounce of conservative principle that you may have ever had, so you are lashing out at both Joe Biden and people like me who call you out on your hypocrisy and your bullshit.

I don’t know who hurt you and how they did it, but you have some very deep seated issues that you probably need to work to resolve. The anger and vitriol that you have, even after having your preferred political party and your preferred presidential candidate win, is the craziest thing I’ve ever seen.
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Was the board's obsession with trump after he left office insane? Just trying to understand your justification here.

Conservative principles to a true conservative aren't abandoned due to one man. Nobody who proclaims to be a conservative for the reasons you do can vote for the least conservative administration ever unless hatred for one dude eclipses the commitment to those principles.
 
CFordUNC said:
Oh, and calla, you want to know the main difference between you and almost every single other person on this board? Every single one of us would be in the streets with pitchforks raising holy hell if a democratic presidential administration was so openly skullfucking the entire constitutional order in broad daylight the way the Trump administration currently is. None of us would be here cheerleading it and ball washing it in as humiliating fashion as you are.
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I know you would. You would probably be at the front of the pack leading the charge. Might even nickname you the Shamon of the pack. The courts determine whether a constitutional skullfucking is taking place, not angry voters who didn't win the election.
 
Callatoroy said:
Was the board's obsession with trump after he left office insane? Just trying to understand your justification here.

Conservative principles to a true conservative aren't abandoned due to one man. Nobody who proclaims to be a conservative for the reasons you do can vote for the least conservative administration ever unless hatred for one dude eclipses the commitment to those principles.
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What in the world are you trying to argue? My guy, if the one man to whom you are referring- who does not have a single conservative bone in his entire bloated, obese, orange painted body –causes the entire conservative movement and the entire Republican Party to capitulate like beta cuck bitches and completely abandoned conservatism, then you are goddamn right it is imperative for anyone like me who cares about conservative principles to oppose that person in that party. Do you even have any idea of what you are arguing? You are literally saying that one person is more important than an entire multiple hundred year-old movement!

Here’s what happened. I voted for Donald Trump in 2016. Over the course of his first presidency, I started to realize, hey you know what, goddamn, this motherfucker doesn’t stand for any of the shit I have claimed to believe in my entire life. I guess I won’t vote for him the next time, or the next time! See how easy that was?

Now here is what you did. You claimed to be a conservative, and then when Trump proved himself to be the complete antithesis of classical American conservatism, instead of looking yourself in the mirror and doing some introspective soul-searching, you decided to double down and then triple down and break out your most comfortable kneepads. Some fucking principled conservative you are.

The reasons you like Donald Trump are the exact same reasons as to why you are not conservative. You think that conservatism means pissing down your leg afraid of the fact that transgender people might exist or that people may use pronouns to identify themselves. That’s what you think conservatism is. You think conservatism is gaining power and then being able to completely run roughshod over the United States constitution and the entire federal government just for shits and giggles. You think conservatism is being the biggest, loudest, most belligerent, most bellicose bully in the room.

Here is what I believe conservatism is. I believe it is sticking by your principles even when it is not convenient. I believe it is sticking by your principles even when your party or your party’s presidential candidate are completely antithetical to everything you believe in. I believe conservatism is commitment to free trade and free markets. I believe conservatism is commitment to preserving individual liberties and personal freedoms, even when we don’t agree with those liberties and freedoms. I believe conservatism is projecting peace through strength, not through being the loudest cage rattling monkey. I believe conservatism is a deep seated respect for the military and law enforcement, and not just win we think they are aligned with our political persuasions. I believe conservatism is protecting the right of every other human being to identify how they want, live how they want, etc., even when we don’t understand or agree with their choices. I believe conservatism is following the letter of the law spelled out in the United States Constitution, even when it’s inconvenient. I believe conservatism means protecting your right to say the dumbest, most outlandish, most asinine bullshit you can possibly spew even when I hate it and disagree with it with every fiber of my being. I believe conservatism means that government should be as small as is possible while being able to effectively and efficiently improve life for the overwhelming vast majority of its citizens. I believe conservatism means that every single able bodied soul should work but that we should also provide helping hands up, not necessarily handouts, to the least fortunate among us. I believe conservatism means adhering to biblical principles of loving your neighbors, sheltering the immigrant, feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, and healing the sick. I believe conservatism means maintaining a strong and secure national border, while advocating for a quick, efficient, inhumane system of legal immigration to allow the best and the brightest and the hardest working from around the world to come to the United States of America to make their lives and our lives better.

We can agree and disagree of actual policy principle. Lots of liberals disagree with one another and lots of conservatives disagree with one another on matters of policy. Where you and I disagree is not policy, but rather conviction. My conviction for my conservative principles runs a hell of a lot deeper than anyone political candidate or anyone political moment in time. Your conviction for your conservative principles got surrendered faster than the French at Dunkirk the moment that someone arrived on the scene and made you feel better about how much you hate people who don’t adhere to the narrowminded way in which you think people should live or be governed.
 
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Callatoroy said:
I know you would. You would probably be at the front of the pack leading the charge. Might even nickname you the Shamon of the pack. The courts determine whether a constitutional skullfucking is taking place, not angry voters who didn't win the election.
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Lolololol oh so nowwwwww you believe in the court system! Duly noted. Keep that same energy if Trump‘s felony convictions are upheld on appeal!
 
Callatoroy said:
I know you would. You would probably be at the front of the pack leading the charge. Might even nickname you the Shamon of the pack. The courts determine whether a constitutional skullfucking is taking place, not angry voters who didn't win the election.
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It's good to know that when the courts rule numerous Trump policies and actions unconstitutional (as they already have with his loony birthright citizenship EO) you'll be right here with us condemning him for his lawless overreach.
 
Callatoroy said:
I know you would. You would probably be at the front of the pack leading the charge. Might even nickname you the Shamon of the pack. The courts determine whether a constitutional skullfucking is taking place, not angry voters who didn't win the election.
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Shamon, shamon, lay it on me, all right.

I'm bad, I'm bad, shamon really bad.
 
rodoheel said:
Hey champ, still waiting on all that easy-to-find evidence about the decline of the military. Do you need some help with Google or something?

By the way did you need me to explain what the purpose of a condom is? Happy to help if that's the source of your confusion. .
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He googled and realized that all those articles talking about the decline of the military lead back to a report by the Heritage Foundation.
 
ChileG said:
He googled and realized that all those articles talking about the decline of the military lead back to a report by the Heritage Foundation.
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And I’m not kidding, either. Because I did the Google search, too.
 
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