OMB freezes all disbursements / USAID shutdown / GOP begs for exceptions for their states

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“… Work that was halted, according to employees and contractors, included the U.S.’s efforts to stop the spread of an Ebola outbreak in Uganda, an outbreak of the Marburg virus disease in Tanzania, and a multicountry outbreak of Mpox.

Most employees of a field hospital in Gaza were abruptly terminated last week, said Adam Hamawy, a plastic surgeon working nearby. The hospital administrator sent a text message to the terminated staff, saying they would be paid a final $400.

Waivers have now been granted to allow certain emergency humanitarian programs to get funds, although employees and recipients said they had received limited guidance about how to interpret which programs qualify.

… Nicholas Gottlieb, the agency’s director of employee and labor relations, later sent an email saying that after review, he found the decision to put dozens of senior employees on leave unjustified and that there had been no evidence of misconduct.

Two hours later, he emailed to say that he himself had been put on leave, according to employees.

… Termination notices often arrived outside normal working hours. Some contractors started hearing that their colleagues had lost their jobs in the morning and watched the hours tick by until their notices arrived at night. For some overseas, dismissal has meant trying to figure out how to get back to the U.S. with their families.

…On Saturday, DOGE representatives sought access to sensitive systems at USAID’s building in Washington.

Security officials at the agency initially resisted the DOGE team’s requests, which some people familiar with the confrontation said included demands for access to personnel information.

The security officials, John Voorhees and his deputy, then were put on administrative leave for not complying, people familiar with the episode said.

“We spent the weekend feeding USAID into the wood chipper,” Musk said on social media. “USAID is a criminal organization.” …”
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Projecting again with the criminal organization comment.
 
CFordUNC said:
Your Transgender Tourette’s is flaring up. I never said a word about transgender anything. I don’t even know what in the hell you are talking about with transgender operas and transgender comics. That all sounds so absurdly ridiculous as to not even really be believable. I’d have to see some non-Breitbart sourcing on that because it sounds so outlandishly absurd- you know, kind of like when you said we were spending $1 billion on condoms in Gaza.

I’m talking broadly about the money that we spend abroad to advance American soft power and build international goodwill. You’re acting like you, as someone who has exactly zero experience in international relations, have a better handle or idea on how to spend foreign aid dollars than the people who have been doing it in Republican and Democratic administrations for decades. You don’t. I don’t.

And, brother, do not talk down to me about my conservative principles when you are on this board every single day ballwashing the most anti-conservative presidential administration in American history. The difference in my conservatism and your conservatism is that mine never changed one iota in order to accommodate an orange obese carnival barker from New York. Yours did.
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POLITIFACT

No, the US did not spend $50 million to fund condoms in Gaza​

A separate U.S. program that provides contraceptives internationally spent $60 million worldwide in one year, but Gaza was not among the recipients.​


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You are right it absurdly ridiculous. No wonder its not front page news in the NYT and WaPo because it was biden spending. And it wasn't $50 million on condoms, it was $60 million. So glad you agree with me it is absurd. My cat has a better understanding on how to spend foreign aid than the biden admin did.

There is nothing conservative about your principles when you voted for a party that would have continued that type of spending and you know good and damn well she wouldn't have changed a thing. How did the last 4 years of decline in the military jive with your conservative principles? Think kamala had it as a priority to rebuild what joe neglected? Maybe you should reexamine which administration's stated goals actually aligned with your principles because it seems as if you were misinformed or you aren't as conservative as you think you are.
 
ChileG said:
And they are trusting the same people who said we were sending $50M dollars worth of condoms to Gaza (in Israel) so Hamas can make bombs with them. And these same people are still making that claim even after being told the truth.
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So the destination of the condoms is critical to you, not the wasted 60 million? Is that correct or am I misreading your statement.
 
Callatoroy said:
POLITIFACT

No, the US did not spend $50 million to fund condoms in Gaza​

A separate U.S. program that provides contraceptives internationally spent $60 million worldwide in one year, but Gaza was not among the recipients.​


cosmicbook.news

Trump Cancels Funding For Trans Comic Book In Peru | Cosmic Book News

It's learned President Donald Trump's new DEI policies have impacted the comic book community as funding was in place for a trans comic book in Peru.
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You are right it absurdly ridiculous. No wonder its not front page news in the NYT and WaPo because it was biden spending. And it wasn't $50 million on condoms, it was $60 million. So glad you agree with me it is absurd. My cat has a better understanding on how to spend foreign aid than the biden admin did.

There is nothing conservative about your principles when you voted for a party that would have continued that type of spending and you know good and damn well she wouldn't have changed a thing. How did the last 4 years of decline in the military jive with your conservative principles? Think kamala had it as a priority to rebuild what joe neglected? Maybe you should reexamine which administration's stated goals actually aligned with your principles because it seems as if you were misinformed or you aren't as conservative as you think you are.
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If you don't understand how spending money on condoms is good use of foreign aid money then I sort of wonder if you're able to tell which block goes in the round hole and which block goes in the square hole.
 
rodoheel said:
Can you give us any examples of this "decline" in the military over the last four years? Perhaps we lost a war somewhere that I didn't hear about?
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It doesn't take much digging to find it so dig away. You are right, we didn't lose a war but two were certainly started due to joe, jill, and the entire shadow presidency.
 
Callatoroy said:
POLITIFACT

No, the US did not spend $50 million to fund condoms in Gaza​

A separate U.S. program that provides contraceptives internationally spent $60 million worldwide in one year, but Gaza was not among the recipients.​


cosmicbook.news

Trump Cancels Funding For Trans Comic Book In Peru | Cosmic Book News

It's learned President Donald Trump's new DEI policies have impacted the comic book community as funding was in place for a trans comic book in Peru.
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You are right it absurdly ridiculous. No wonder its not front page news in the NYT and WaPo because it was biden spending. And it wasn't $50 million on condoms, it was $60 million. So glad you agree with me it is absurd. My cat has a better understanding on how to spend foreign aid than the biden admin did.

There is nothing conservative about your principles when you voted for a party that would have continued that type of spending and you know good and damn well she wouldn't have changed a thing. How did the last 4 years of decline in the military jive with your conservative principles? Think kamala had it as a priority to rebuild what joe neglected? Maybe you should reexamine which administration's stated goals actually aligned with your principles because it seems as if you were misinformed or you aren't as conservative as you think you are.
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Would have been easier to just admit you were wrong.
 
Callatoroy said:
POLITIFACT

No, the US did not spend $50 million to fund condoms in Gaza​

A separate U.S. program that provides contraceptives internationally spent $60 million worldwide in one year, but Gaza was not among the recipients.​


cosmicbook.news

Trump Cancels Funding For Trans Comic Book In Peru | Cosmic Book News

It's learned President Donald Trump's new DEI policies have impacted the comic book community as funding was in place for a trans comic book in Peru.
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You are right it absurdly ridiculous. No wonder its not front page news in the NYT and WaPo because it was biden spending. And it wasn't $50 million on condoms, it was $60 million. So glad you agree with me it is absurd. My cat has a better understanding on how to spend foreign aid than the biden admin did.

There is nothing conservative about your principles when you voted for a party that would have continued that type of spending and you know good and damn well she wouldn't have changed a thing. How did the last 4 years of decline in the military jive with your conservative principles? Think kamala had it as a priority to rebuild what joe neglected? Maybe you should reexamine which administration's stated goals actually aligned with your principles because it seems as if you were misinformed or you aren't as conservative as you think you are.
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LMAO I've probably got more conservatism in the tip of my penis than you have in your entire body, sport. You don't want to have this argument with me, I promise you. It won't end well for you.

I think the United States military has been the greatest fighting force on the planet for decades upon decades, spanning Republican and Democratic presidential administrations. My deepest admiration, respect, and gratitude is off to every single person who has ever donned that uniform, and made the sacrifice (either in life, limb, or time away from their families). I don't give a flying fuck whether they were gay, straight, bi, tri, Black, white, green, or grey. Have some goddamned patriotism for once in your life and just be grateful for all of the people- regardless of creed, ideology, background, etc.- who sacrifice so that dumb fuckers like you and I can argue pointless bullshit on the internet.

You know which administration's goals align with my conservative principles, pal? The one that didn't believe in stripping individual rights and liberties away from mothers wanting to make their own individual healthcare decisions. The one that didn't open the prison doors and let a whole bunch of violent cop-beating criminals and thugs out onto the streets. The one that isn't metaphorically burning the United States Constitution right before our eyes. The one that doesn't get down on its knees and deep throat autocratic thugs like Putin, Xi, and Bibi. The one that believed in investing money in rural, bumfuck, poor shithole places like the one where I grew up and like the one in which most of my family resides. The one that didn't believe in sucking the chrome off the tailpipes of billionaire fuckboys like Musk, Zuckerberg, Bezos, and Thiel. The one that didn't openly muse about invading sovereign territory owned by our closest friends and allies. The one that didn't violate every single fucking core principle of free markets and free trade to slap our closest friends and trading partners with pointless bullshit tariffs (or, as it turns out, pussified empty threats of tarrifs). The one that believes in American exceptionalism and the United States being the preeminent global leader abroad. You want me to keep going?

Don't ever lecture me again about conservatism when you are on this board every single day fingerblasting Donald Trump. You aren't a goddamned conservative. Your beliefs are an embarrassment to everything true conservatives stand for.
 
rodoheel said:
If you don't understand how spending money on condoms is good use of foreign aid money then I sort of wonder if you're able to tell which block goes in the round hole and which block goes in the square hole.
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Wonder how the majority of American's feel about it being a good use of foreign aid. I'm guessing it is your side that can't distinguish round from square.
 
Callatoroy said:
It doesn't take much digging to find it so dig away. You are right, we didn't lose a war but two were certainly started due to joe, jill, and the entire shadow presidency.
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it doesn't take much digging to find it but you can't actually give me any examples, huh? Can't even throw out some vague platitude about "woke" or "DEI"?

I wonder - does any of the dreck that right-wing media shouts into your ears get filtered out before it comes back out through your mouth, or is it pretty much just a pass-through system?
 
Hey guys I'm trying to figure out why the US would work to improve global health and fight the global spread of disease. I'm struggling to come up with an illustration of how transmissible diseases in other countries could impact US citizens. Can anyone help me out?
 
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I just googled and found about 20 websites saying the USA has the best, most powerful military in the world.
That was easy to find.
 
ZenMode said:
I would argue that funding pet projects like comic books and musicals in foreign countries are, in themselves, outside the purview of the federal government. It's borderline ridiculous, to be honest.
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And once again, the arrogance of ignorance.

People like to accuse me of thinking I know everything. I consider that a slander, but let's say it's true. That would put me on par with you, since you think you know everything about international aid and how it works and the benefits and what not.

At least I'm usually right. We might call that "arrogance of knowledge." You are a broken clock, guaranteed to be wrong except for coincidences.

Which is better? Wouldn't you rather at least aspire to arrogance of knowledge, rather than dwell in arrogance of ignorance?
 
CFordUNC said:
LMAO I've probably got more conservatism in the tip of my penis than you have in your entire body, sport. You don't want to have this argument with me, I promise you. It won't end well for you.

I think the United States military has been the greatest fighting force on the planet for decades upon decades, spanning Republican and Democratic presidential administrations. My deepest admiration, respect, and gratitude is off to every single person who has ever donned that uniform, and made the sacrifice (either in life, limb, or time away from their families). I don't give a flying fuck whether they were gay, straight, bi, tri, Black, white, green, or grey. Have some goddamned patriotism for once in your life and just be grateful for all of the people- regardless of creed, ideology, background, etc.- who sacrifice so that dumb fuckers like you and I can argue pointless bullshit on the internet.

You know which administration's goals align with my conservative principles, pal? The one that didn't believe in stripping individual rights and liberties away from mothers wanting to make their own individual healthcare decisions. The one that didn't open the prison doors and let a whole bunch of violent cop-beating criminals and thugs out onto the streets. The one that isn't metaphorically burning the United States Constitution right before our eyes. The one that doesn't get down on its knees and deep throat autocratic thugs like Putin, Xi, and Bibi. The one that believed in investing money in rural, bumfuck, poor shithole places like the one where I grew up and like the one in which most of my family resides. The one that didn't believe in sucking the chrome off the tailpipes of billionaire fuckboys like Musk, Zuckerberg, Bezos, and Thiel. The one that didn't openly muse about invading sovereign territory owned by our closest friends and allies. The one that didn't violate every single fucking core principle of free markets and free trade to slap our closest friends and trading partners with pointless bullshit tariffs (or, as it turns out, pussified empty threats of tarrifs). The one that believes in American exceptionalism and the United States being the preeminent global leader abroad. You want me to keep going?

Don't ever lecture me again about conservatism when you are on this board every single day fingerblasting Donald Trump. You aren't a goddamned conservative. Your beliefs are an embarrassment to everything true conservatives stand for.
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Actually yes, please keep going. Your rhetoric, while full of shit, is still just rhetoric. How much can you expand on it? Please incorporate how voting for a candidate that came to be a candidate by the least democratic process possible aligns with your conservative principles. It would be cool to if you could show how those principles help you juggle the sheer hypocrisy of trump's pardons vs biden's pardons that included violence. Don't leave out the part how your conservative principles and deep respect for the military align with our immense global leadership that led to 2 wars started under the term of the weakest (and sleepiest) potus ever and how our military can't meet it recruitment goals unless lowering the goals and how our navy is the weakest it has been in decades. I'm just struggling to see how your conservatism applies with voting for kamala. My personal opinion is that you can't separate conservatism from trump hatred and the hatred was stronger than your conservative principles.
 
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