On Board Decorum

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Purple Nurple said:
Thanks for your efforts.

This is kind of sad. People can’t express themselves, or make a point, without throwing child like tantrums. And then give child like reasonings for why they can’t be asked to practice some modicum of decorum.
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This gt dude has trolled and annoyed people on every board he’s been on. I don’t know what your username was at IC but he’s got a long history. He pestered super until he broke down and then when super came here to explain he took more shots at him. He’s a garbage human being.
 
ZenMode said:
At least during the early part of the interview, she seemed to have some good thoughts on the causes of Trump's win in 2024. Now that I've listened more, it's easy to tell she's very much focused on history.

In regard to making our own facts, it might be easier to give an example and address new examples when they arise.

To my knowledge, the media sources that Democrats generally trust, reported, until they couldn't any longer, that Biden was still mentally sharp. Many of those same sources downplayed the things that Republicans were pointing out as being concerning. We later found out that Biden hadn't held a cabinet meeting since October 2023 because of his cognitive decline. Obviously, it's not the fault of the media that they were lied to.... because they clearly were by their "sources", right?

My point isn't that Fox News Channel is remotely close to CNN in their intention to report accurate information. My point is that, for 99% of us, the concept of a fact simply doesn't exist because neither I or you or the talking head on CNN or the NY Times writer has first hand knowledge and are susceptible to being lied to. What it comes down to is believing something and deciding to what degree we believe it.
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One do could a lot worse than listening to and reading Dr. HCR. I recommend her to any and all with eyes that see and ears that listen.
 
Enigma94 said:
This gt dude has trolled and annoyed people on every board he’s been on. I don’t know what your username was at IC but he’s got a long history. He pestered super until he broke down and then when super came here to explain he took more shots at him. He’s a garbage human being.
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Just say you can't control yourself from exhibiting child like behavior.

For the record, your first post on a thread asking for decorum was to respond with name calling and insults. I also disagree that GT took a shot a Super. He expressed his opinion. He did so in a way that honored the request of the moderator.
 
hedge said:
You're doing an exemplary job and if you moderated or deleted my salty post directed at yellowjacket (or any post I made, ever) I wouldn't mind at all. As far as I'm concerned, you're the arbiter of what's acceptable in here and what's not, even though I know some of the shit I post wouldn't be allowed. And that's fine. I can accept being chastening by you..
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Replying to myself here, I deleted my post directed at yellowjacket last night and apologized to nycfan via DM this morning and I now apologize to her publicly. She started this thread as a good faith effort and, as she put it, gentle nudge towards a more conscientious effort on the part of the board members towards civility and decorum, and my post last night pretty much (ahem) shat on her good faith effort and valid attempt at board decorum, and for that I apologize. I do not, however, retract my statement that I do appreciate that we can use language of a saltier nature than was allowed on IC, and that it's nice to be able to talk like adults, but my reply to yellowjacket last night crossed that line by a fairly wide margin. I will try to do better...
 
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Purple Nurple said:
Just say you can't control yourself from exhibiting child like behavior.

For the record, your first post on a thread asking for decorum was to respond with name calling and insults. I also disagree that GT took a shot a Super. He expressed his opinion. He did so in a way that honored the request of the moderator.
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If you can't handle other people calling out BS then just say you are a weak willed person. By the way, nice to start a post chastising me about name calling by calling me a name.

This whole thing started when some posters, including GT, attacked super's posting style and took some personal shots at him when GT himself has been called out on every board he's posted on as being a troll. The guy had everyone on the longest running, most benign thread in ZZL history pissed off at him. He made a slew of sarcastic responses to super and when super showed up on this thread to explain how those kind of comments impacted him I tried to support him since he's a long time quality poster. GT took the opportunity to tell him to leave the board yet again and added a whine about how he was treated on the old ZZLP. So I decided to respond because I want super to post here and GT has polluted all of these boards with his tripe. If you don't know the history, and again I don't know your username from IC, then you are speaking about things you don't understand.
 
Enigma94 said:
If you can't handle other people calling out BS then just say you are a weak willed person. By the way, nice to start a post chastising me about name calling by calling me a name.

This whole thing started when some posters, including GT, attacked super's posting style and took some personal shots at him when GT himself has been called out on every board he's posted on as being a troll. The guy had everyone on the longest running, most benign thread in ZZL history pissed off at him. He made a slew of sarcastic responses to super and when super showed up on this thread to explain how those kind of comments impacted him I tried to support him since he's a long time quality poster. GT took the opportunity to tell him to leave the board yet again and added a whine about how he was treated on the old ZZLP. So I decided to respond because I want super to post here and GT has polluted all of these boards with his tripe. If you don't know the history, and again I don't know your username from IC, then you are speaking about things you don't understand.
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Geez. You don't have to make this so difficult. Just honor the moderators request. Any thing else is just an excuse for why you can't control yourself.

And sorry, but Super broke his hand from punching a wall because of a message board. Perhaps some time away is the best thing for him, quality poster or not.
 
hedge said:
Replying to myself here, I deleted my post directed at yellowjacket last night and apologized to nycfan via DM this morning and I now apologize to her publicly. She started this thread as a good faith effort and, as she put it, gentle nudge towards a more conscientious effort on the part of the board members towards civility and decorum, and my post last night pretty much (ahem) shat on her good faith effort and valid attempt at board decorum, and for that I apologize. I do not, however, retract my statement that I do appreciate that we can use language of a saltier nature than was allowed on IC, and that it's nice to be able to talk like adults, but my reply to yellowjacket last night crossed that line by a fairly wide margin. I will try to do better...
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An impressive apology, hedge ... and you get points for using the quote feature.
 
Purple Nurple said:
Geez. You don't have to make this so difficult. Just honor the moderators request. Any thing else is just an excuse for why you can't control yourself.

And sorry, but Super broke his hand from punching a wall because of a message board. Perhaps some time away is the best thing for him, quality poster or not.
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So on the decorum thread you are saying you are ok with posters driving another poster, who has been open about his mental health issues by the way, to punch a wall by taking personal pot shots at him but if someone uses a few curse words to respond to that it's over the line. I am completely under control and your concern there is not needed.
 
finesse said:
You showed that you didn't have a clue. How exactly did you show I have anger issues or am hypocritical? How about links to what I said and your take on where the anger is and what is hypocritical.
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Anger, hostility towards the opposition. Let it out. You will feeeeeel better. Let It Out Scream Woman Meme | Woman Screaming After Saying 'Let It Out ...
 
Enigma94 said:
If you can't handle other people calling out BS then just say you are a weak willed person. By the way, nice to start a post chastising me about name calling by calling me a name.

This whole thing started when some posters, including GT, attacked super's posting style and took some personal shots at him when GT himself has been called out on every board he's posted on as being a troll. The guy had everyone on the longest running, most benign thread in ZZL history pissed off at him. He made a slew of sarcastic responses to super and when super showed up on this thread to explain how those kind of comments impacted him I tried to support him since he's a long time quality poster. GT took the opportunity to tell him to leave the board yet again and added a whine about how he was treated on the old ZZLP. So I decided to respond because I want super to post here and GT has polluted all of these boards with his tripe. If you don't know the history, and again I don't know your username from IC, then you are speaking about things you don't understand.
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you and others continue to give super a pass and ignore his vile commentary to others where he uses disgusting, vulgar language. it seems to get a pass because he's special and going through a lot.
 
Over the years, I have found incredible value lurking on this board, and the experience has improved considerably since its split from IC. Most of the credit for this goes to Rock and nycfan, who have made this board what it is.

One of the ways it has improved is that, while I don't have a view of how the sausage is made behind the scenes, there seems to be a lighter touch applied during moderation. For that to continue, we have to self-moderate ourselves and make sure that our internet squabbles don't have a corrosive effect on the threads and the board overall.

So if the key moderator reminds us of our collective responsibility, the collective reaction should be, "Yup - you're right - got it going forward." Independent of whether we can use curse words, etc.

The key issue here is how we react to one (maybe more) troll who has already posted on this thread. The best way to treat a troll has always been that you starve him from the attention he craves. If you feel the need to respond to this person in a less than decorous way, please consider using super-ignore instead. Doing so is not a sign of weak character, but rather an assertion that the overall tenor of the board improves for all if we simply don't respond to the chum.
 
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Batt Boy said:
you and others continue to give super a pass and ignore his vile commentary to others where he uses disgusting, vulgar language. it seems to get a pass because he's special and going through a lot.
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You are probably right that I give super more leeway than a poster like GT, since super has added to the information flow and GT has brought his longtime trolling schtick here from IC. He did get much more angry since the election, I will grant you that. I also listen to posters like you because I think you add value to the board and I have learned from your posts. That has never once happened with GT.
 
Huh? said:
Over the years, I have found incredible value lurking on this board, and the experience has improved considerably since its split from IC. Most of the credit for this goes to Rock and nycfan, who have made this board what it is.

One of the ways it has improved is that, while I don't have a view of how the sausage is made behind the scenes, there seems to be a lighter touch applied during moderation. For that to continue, we have to self-moderate ourselves, and make sure that our internet squabbles don't have a corrosive effect on the threads and the board overall.

So if the key moderator reminds us of our collective responsibility, the collective reaction should be, "Yup - you're right - got it going forward." Independent of whether we can use curse words, etc.

They key issue here is how we react to one (maybe more) troll who has already posted on this thread. The best way to treat a troll has always been that you starve him from the attention he craves. If you feel the need to respond to this person in a less than decorous way, please consider using super-ignore instead. Doing so is not a sign of weak character, but rather an assertion that the overall tenor of the board improves for all if we simply don't respond to the chum.
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Pretty solid second post but even if it goes downhill from that, your username is hilariously awesome.
 
Purple Nurple said:
Just say you can't control yourself from exhibiting child like behavior.

For the record, your first post on a thread asking for decorum was to respond with name calling and insults. I also disagree that GT took a shot a Super. He expressed his opinion. He did so in a way that honored the request of the moderator.
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I think he's more referring to GTs overall approach and history, not just thus thread.

GT is known for his style and it can be challenging at times
 
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