Russia - Ukraine “peace negotiations”

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1moretimeagain said:
This is why I suggested you have a paralegal watch the episode. I’ve told you multiple times that Bill Maher didn’t say Putin looked like Trump’s caddy, yet you keep making the same error.
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Trying to find the clip to hopefully resolve this …









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Last one is the charm. Guest says Putin looked like Trump’s caddy and Trump looked too intimidating to Putin [you can hear Maher harrumph at that]
 
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Ramrouser said:
I still see no downside in taking this process out as far as possible in order to secure from Putin his best and final offer.
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Let me clue you in: this is not a process. Its already coming to an end with the Putin/Zelensky meeting. Reportedly, Putin told Trump that Zelensky could come to Moscow. Moscow? I trust I don't have to expand on that location.

Simply no way that Putin will meet Zelensky. Never going to happen. Putin will throw up endless roadblocks and concession demands to make sure it won't happen. All the while leading Trump along.
 
Ramrouser said:
smallish Putin looking like Trump's caddy (carrying his clubs) is NOT a favorable visual for US and not embarrassing for the vain Putin?
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Ramrouser said:
He was very complimentary to Trump to the chagrin of Molly Jong-Fast - who largely echoed what is being said here.

Said it was a "zombie lie" to continue stating that Trump was Putin's bitch.
Said visuals in Alaska were great in that Putin was half of Trump's size and looked like his caddy.
Mentioned Putin nervously smiling.
Cut off Molly when she tried to criticize Trump for clapping for Putin on the red carpet - telling her to knock off that "crap" since it reminded him of Republicans criticizing Obama for his tan suit.

I watched the episode - doubt you did.
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Good lord, Ram. Now that the actual clip has been posted, will you admit you completely lied about what Maher said?
 
lawtig02 said:
Good lord, Ram. Now that the actual clip has been posted, will you admit you completely lied about what Maher said?
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As with many, many things Ram posts, he mixes up who said what and when. He gets his info third and fourth hand through conservative social media, and like a bad game of telephone, it gets regurgitated on this site in a way that has little resemblance to the truth. Like when he thought America Eagle sold $350 million worth of jeans in one day.
 
Calheel said:
As with many, many things Ram posts, he mixes up who said what and when. He gets his info third and fourth hand through conservative social media, and like a bad game of telephone, it gets regurgitated on this site in a way that has little resemblance to the truth. Like when he thought America Eagle sold $350 million worth of jeans in one day.
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Agree. Would just be nice to see him nut up and acknowledge his lie for once.
 
Damn. I don't play golf, and even I know that nobody claps for their fucking caddy -- let alone roll out a carpet and then bumble along with eager anticipation as the caddy approaches.
 
Clip wasn’t posted I rewatched the segment:

Molly: “It crushed some norms having Putin walk across that red carpet as Trump clapped

Maher: “oh come on, are we really going to go there, this bull shit…Obama wore a tan suit and saluted with his coffee in his hand… who gives a shit.

Kirn: Body language puts lie to notion that Trump is Putin’s stooge. Then mentioned Putin half Trump’s size and looks like his caddy while smiling nervously.

I didn’t get my information from third party sources and the only thing I got wrong was that it was a guest on Maher’s show, not Maher, who made the comment about the body language (my mistake). But Maher doesn’t disagree with him and makes numerous positive comments about Trump and the peace negotiations.
 
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heelinhell said:
Do you support the European leaders saying any "peace agreement" should include a commitment from Trump to support an Article 5 commitment to enforce and protect Ukraine security should Putin violate any agreement and continue his grab Ukraine territory or territory in any NATO countries ?
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I doubt Trump responds to a Russian attack on a Baltic nation or a NATO peace force in Ukraine.

Trump wants to break NATO.
 
Ramrouser said:
Clip wasn’t posted I rewatched the segment:

Molly: “It crushed some norms having Putin walk across that red carpet as Trump clapped

Maher: “oh come on, are we really going to go there, this bull shit…Obama wore a tan suit and saluted with his coffee in his hand… who gives a shit.

Kirn: Body language puts lie to notion that Trump is Putin’s stooge. Then mentioned Putin half Trump’s size and looks like his caddy while smiling nervously.

I didn’t get my information from third party sources and the only thing I got wrong was that it was a guest on Maher’s show, not Maher, who made the comment about the body language (my mistake). But Maher doesn’t disagree with him and makes numerous positive comments about Trump and the peace negotiations.
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Not sure “my mistake” has ever done more work. But thanks for admitting you’re a liar. We already knew it, but still good to hear you admit it.
 
Ramrouser said:
Maher doesn’t disagree with him and makes numerous positive comments about Trump and the peace negotiations.
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But Maher doesn't say anything about it being a good visual. He just doesn't give a shit about optics one way or the other -- that is why he compares it to the tan suit bruhaha. Three times lawtig called you out for making up shit, and three times you insisted you were right -- even when the video evidence showed otherwise.
 
lawtig02 said:
Not sure “my mistake” has ever done more work. But thanks for admitting you’re a liar. We already knew it, but still good to hear you admit it.
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So you are incapable of distinguishing an intentional lie ( meant to deceive) and an honest mistake? All the points I relayed about the show were correct except mixing up who said the comment about the caddy. Broader point remains: two liberals giving an honest review of how Trump is conducting the peace negotiations with some criticisms and some praise. Maher doesn’t like Trump but he doesn’t have TDS and doesn’t reflexively hate everything Trump does or says. Refreshing.
 
Calheel said:
But Maher doesn't say anything about it being a good visual. He just doesn't give a shit about optics one way or the other -- that is why he compares it to the tan suit bruhaha. Three times lawtig called you out for making up shit, and three times you insisted you were right -- even when the video evidence showed otherwise.
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Acceptance of the impossible and the blatantly false are conditions of his cult identity.
 
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