Russia - Ukraine “peace negotiations”

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Damn. I don't play golf, and even I know that nobody claps for their fucking caddy -- let alone roll out a carpet and then bumble along with eager anticipation as the caddy approaches.
 
Clip wasn’t posted I rewatched the segment:

Molly: “It crushed some norms having Putin walk across that red carpet as Trump clapped

Maher: “oh come on, are we really going to go there, this bull shit…Obama wore a tan suit and saluted with his coffee in his hand… who gives a shit.

Kirn: Body language puts lie to notion that Trump is Putin’s stooge. Then mentioned Putin half Trump’s size and looks like his caddy while smiling nervously.

I didn’t get my information from third party sources and the only thing I got wrong was that it was a guest on Maher’s show, not Maher, who made the comment about the body language (my mistake). But Maher doesn’t disagree with him and makes numerous positive comments about Trump and the peace negotiations.
 
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heelinhell said:
Do you support the European leaders saying any "peace agreement" should include a commitment from Trump to support an Article 5 commitment to enforce and protect Ukraine security should Putin violate any agreement and continue his grab Ukraine territory or territory in any NATO countries ?
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I doubt Trump responds to a Russian attack on a Baltic nation or a NATO peace force in Ukraine.

Trump wants to break NATO.
 
Ramrouser said:
Clip wasn’t posted I rewatched the segment:

Molly: “It crushed some norms having Putin walk across that red carpet as Trump clapped

Maher: “oh come on, are we really going to go there, this bull shit…Obama wore a tan suit and saluted with his coffee in his hand… who gives a shit.

Kirn: Body language puts lie to notion that Trump is Putin’s stooge. Then mentioned Putin half Trump’s size and looks like his caddy while smiling nervously.

I didn’t get my information from third party sources and the only thing I got wrong was that it was a guest on Maher’s show, not Maher, who made the comment about the body language (my mistake). But Maher doesn’t disagree with him and makes numerous positive comments about Trump and the peace negotiations.
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Not sure “my mistake” has ever done more work. But thanks for admitting you’re a liar. We already knew it, but still good to hear you admit it.
 
Ramrouser said:
Maher doesn’t disagree with him and makes numerous positive comments about Trump and the peace negotiations.
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But Maher doesn't say anything about it being a good visual. He just doesn't give a shit about optics one way or the other -- that is why he compares it to the tan suit bruhaha. Three times lawtig called you out for making up shit, and three times you insisted you were right -- even when the video evidence showed otherwise.
 
lawtig02 said:
Not sure “my mistake” has ever done more work. But thanks for admitting you’re a liar. We already knew it, but still good to hear you admit it.
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So you are incapable of distinguishing an intentional lie ( meant to deceive) and an honest mistake? All the points I relayed about the show were correct except mixing up who said the comment about the caddy. Broader point remains: two liberals giving an honest review of how Trump is conducting the peace negotiations with some criticisms and some praise. Maher doesn’t like Trump but he doesn’t have TDS and doesn’t reflexively hate everything Trump does or says. Refreshing.
 
Calheel said:
But Maher doesn't say anything about it being a good visual. He just doesn't give a shit about optics one way or the other -- that is why he compares it to the tan suit bruhaha. Three times lawtig called you out for making up shit, and three times you insisted you were right -- even when the video evidence showed otherwise.
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What are you talking about? I rewatched the segment and admitted I made a mistake about who made the comment.
 
Ramrouser said:
So you are incapable of distinguishing an intentional lie ( meant to deceive) and an honest mistake?
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In the age of Trump, there is no such thing as an “honest mistake” from people on your side. You live in your own universe where the only truths you know are supplied by Trump and his mouthpieces. Therefore, EVERY lie you vomit up has malicious intent.
 
Ramrouser said:
What are you talking about? I rewatched the segment and admitted I made a mistake about who made the comment.
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It’s not that you made an “honest mistake”



Ramrouser said:
I watched the episode - doubt you did.
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Ramrouser said:
He was very complimentary to Trump.
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Ramrouser said:
The clips support my reporting.
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It’s that you were so confidently and loudly wrong. Even refusing to concede once the evidence was presented.

Ramrouser said:
the only thing I got wrong
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But that’s the MAGA way.
 
nycfan said:


A bad sign for whether any POTUS thinks an issue is a political loser is dumping it in the lap of the VP.
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Is this better or worse than giving it to Jared Kushner?

Vance and Zelenskyy seem like they get along very well.
 
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