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So-called Anti-Woke, Anti-DEI policy catch-all

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ZenMode said:
In which cabinet position, or otherwise, is "I'm not sure if I'm a man or woman" or "I want my partner to have the same genitals as me" a relevant criteria?
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I am really trying hard to believe that you aren't just trolling in bad faith (which seems more and more likely with each past you make), so here goes:

Aside from the general value of having someone who has maybe had different experiences than many, and thus a different perspective, one example could be the Department of Justice - someone who is a member of a subgroup that has experienced discrimination might have some insight on civil rights.

And again, you bear the burden to show that (1) anyone was hired for a cabinet position solely based on the fact that they were gay (or whatever other characteristic that you find objectionable) and (2) that anyone you assert as hired for that position was not qualified for the job. (and if your argument that they were only the second or third or fourth most qualifies, then who should have gotten their spot).
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Were they really that right to be all upset about it. It came back in what less than a week? Trump didn't have to. Trump has taken plenty of unpopular positions and reveled in it. But the administration put back the Tuskegee airmen and all the others because they either don't really care about individuals breaking some barrier or actually celebrate it.
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:rolleyes:
 
roostra said:
I am really trying hard to believe that you aren't just trolling in bad faith (which seems more and more likely with each past you make), so here goes:

Aside from the general value of having someone who has maybe had different experiences than many, and thus a different perspective, one example could be the Department of Justice - someone who is a member of a subgroup that has experienced discrimination might have some insight on civil rights.

And again, you bear the burden to show that (1) anyone was hired for a cabinet position solely based on the fact that they were gay (or whatever other characteristic that you find objectionable) and (2) that anyone you assert as hired for that position was not qualified for the job. (and if your argument that they were only the second or third or fourth most qualifies, then who should have gotten their spot).
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I've laid out support for my claims a few times.

Here and here
 
sringwal said:
I mean, Pete Buttigieg is a Rhodes Scholar who studied at at Harvard and Oxford. He also has shown himself to be both charismatic and pretty knowledgeable about political matters. On top of that, he is able to explain policy to "ordinary people" in a way that is engaging and convincing. Claiming that he was unqualified and only got the job because of his sexual preference is kind of a hot take.
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Yeah but, he never participated in MTV’s The Real World or Road Rules, so he’s obviously not qualified.

TacoMode is such a dumb fuck homophobe piece of shit.
 
Actress Bea Arthur of Golden Girls and Maude fame is among those who were scrubbed from the DoD website. Arthur was one of the first women to join the US Marine Corps Women's Reserve in World War Two. She was then known as Bernice Frankel. After facing a backlash from her fans, her page - which had been deleted at least as early as March 17 - was restored. One wonders at how many other, less famous, minority trailblazers remain scrubbed from the DoD and other government websites. But I'm sure that our resident bosiders and Trumpers are correct that this is all just due to "malicious compliance" (lol, what a term) from liberal bureaucrats just trying to undermine the great work of Dear Leader and Co-President Musk! It's pathetic - I certainly feel much safer knowing that our Defense Department is busily scrubbing people like Bea Arthur from its websites (albeit restoring them when they face a strong enough backlash).

 
Yes, ‘Snow White’ Is Bombing At The Box Office

Snow White did not impress critics with its 44% score on Rotten Tomatoes, but even with a higher 74% audience score, the movie is in fact currently bombing at the box office, at least according to these initial figures.

Snow White brought in $87 million in its opening weekend globally, with just $43 million domestically. That may not mean much out of context, but compared to the other slew of recent live-action Disney adaptations, that’s definitely in “bomb” territory, at least for now. Here’s the list along the same opening weekend time period domestically:

The Lion King - $191 million
Beauty and the Beast - $174 million
Alice in Wonderland - $116 million
The Jungle Book - $103 million
The Little Mermaid - $95 million
Aladdin – $91 million
Maleficent - $69 million
Cinderella - $67 million
Snow White and the Hunstman - $56 million
Dumbo $46 million
Snow White - $43 million
Mufasa: The Lion King - $35 million

There are very few ways to spin that. Snow White is close to the worst-performing live-action Disney adaptation ever, doing not even half or a quarter as well as the higher-up ones on the list, and reviewed more poorly than essentially all of them, which is no doubt a contributor here.

The single bright spot of the film is said to be Rachel Zegler’s performance and her singing, but villain Gal Gadot is criticized roundly, as is the overall structure, script and directing of the film (and those horrifying CGI dwarves). Again, you can even see the unconventional adaptation, Snow White and the Huntsman, opened better than this.

There is one thing to note, however, that could be a glimmer of hope. The lowest film on this list, Mufasa: The Lion King, opened poorly, but over time, despite being an original production (which probably hurt it at the outset) snowballed into eventually making $717 million worldwide, a huge hit. But that feels like an anomaly rather than something that’s going to happen with Snow White.

www.forbes.com

Yes, ‘Snow White’ Is Bombing At The Box Office

Snow White did not impress critics with its 44% score on Rotten Tomatoes, but even with a higher 74% audience score, the movie is currently bombing at the box office.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com
 
ZenMode said:
Yes, ‘Snow White’ Is Bombing At The Box Office

Snow White did not impress critics with its 44% score on Rotten Tomatoes, but even with a higher 74% audience score, the movie is in fact currently bombing at the box office, at least according to these initial figures.

Snow White brought in $87 million in its opening weekend globally, with just $43 million domestically. That may not mean much out of context, but compared to the other slew of recent live-action Disney adaptations, that’s definitely in “bomb” territory, at least for now. Here’s the list along the same opening weekend time period domestically:

The Lion King - $191 million
Beauty and the Beast - $174 million
Alice in Wonderland - $116 million
The Jungle Book - $103 million
The Little Mermaid - $95 million
Aladdin – $91 million
Maleficent - $69 million
Cinderella - $67 million
Snow White and the Hunstman - $56 million
Dumbo $46 million
Snow White - $43 million
Mufasa: The Lion King - $35 million

There are very few ways to spin that. Snow White is close to the worst-performing live-action Disney adaptation ever, doing not even half or a quarter as well as the higher-up ones on the list, and reviewed more poorly than essentially all of them, which is no doubt a contributor here.

The single bright spot of the film is said to be Rachel Zegler’s performance and her singing, but villain Gal Gadot is criticized roundly, as is the overall structure, script and directing of the film (and those horrifying CGI dwarves). Again, you can even see the unconventional adaptation, Snow White and the Huntsman, opened better than this.

There is one thing to note, however, that could be a glimmer of hope. The lowest film on this list, Mufasa: The Lion King, opened poorly, but over time, despite being an original production (which probably hurt it at the outset) snowballed into eventually making $717 million worldwide, a huge hit. But that feels like an anomaly rather than something that’s going to happen with Snow White.

www.forbes.com

Yes, ‘Snow White’ Is Bombing At The Box Office

Snow White did not impress critics with its 44% score on Rotten Tomatoes, but even with a higher 74% audience score, the movie is currently bombing at the box office.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com
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So, a bad movie is performing poorly at the Box Office.
Okay, but why is this in the DEI thread?
 
ZenMode said:
Because it's likely that the Woke/DEI aspect was a news story and was likely a factor.
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1. SW is played by a woman who is half Colombian and half Polish. Why is this an issue? Look at pictures of her as Snow White and she looks like Snow White.

2. Your own article said she is the lone bright spot in the film. Isn’t the point of the anti-DEI crusade to hire the best?
In this case they should have hired someone less talented who is maybe just a little more pale?

You may be right about why some people aren’t seeing it (but it is likely a very small minority, and the movie is performing poorly because apparently it is a bad film) but if that’s true it only proves what a farce this anti-DEI crusade is.
 
ChileG said:
1. SW is played by a woman who is half Colombian and half Polish. Why is this an issue? Look at pictures of her as Snow White and she looks like Snow White.

2. Your own article said she is the lone bright spot in the film. Isn’t the point of the anti-DEI crusade to hire the best?
In this case they should have hired someone less talented who is maybe just a little more pale?

You may be right about why some people aren’t seeing it (but it is likely a very small minority, and the movie is performing poorly because apparently it is a bad film) but if that’s true it only proves what a farce this anti-DEI crusade is.
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"Isn’t the point of the anti-DEI crusade to hire the best?"

In a world where Disney is (was) "Woking" everything it got its hands on, a Colombian isn't the "white as snow" actress some people are looking for and is, therefore, not the "best" option. She may have been fine in a non-Woke, non-DEI world.
 
don't forget the fact that this snow white had a little agency and decided to make her life about more than just finding her prince. BIG problems for the misogyny brigade. way too woke.

i had no idea that this was a thing but now i've read all of the talking points. i am both incredulous and wildly amused that so many conservatives are so batshit insane and miserable that they spend massive amounts of time let alone any amount of time policing this stuff and being outraged by it.
 
lets teach little girls that it's okay to have goals and aspirations beyond just being someone's wife.....THE HORROR.
 
ZenMode said:
"Isn’t the point of the anti-DEI crusade to hire the best?"

In a world where Disney is (was) "Woking" everything it got its hands on, a Colombian isn't the "white as snow" actress some people are looking for and is, therefore, not the "best" option. She may have been fine in a non-Woke, non-DEI world.
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Thanks for confirming that just the possibility of a brown person being involved is enough to trigger racist maga dumfuks to comment on a movie they otherwise wouldn't be interested in.
 
4thgenheel said:
lets teach little girls that it's okay to have goals and aspirations beyond just being someone's wife.....THE HORROR.
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Is this something that was brought up in the media? I don't recall ever hearing about this narrative.
 
ZenMode said:
Is this something that was brought up in the media? I don't recall ever hearing about this narrative.
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odd that you missed that, I spent 2 minutes briefly scanning a couple of articles and its clearly one of the main issues for the woke police.

they cut the "one day my prince will come" song and they're upset about Zegler's comments to Variety in 2022 that "it's no longer 1973" and that Snow White is "not going to be dreaming about true love," but the "leader she knows she can be."
 
Jetson said:
Thanks for confirming that just the possibility of a brown person being involved is enough to trigger racist maga dumfuks to comment on a movie they otherwise wouldn't be interested in.
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Your response highlights the disconnect between what is perceived as an issue and what is actually the issue with wokeness and DEI. The issue is the clear intent by Disney. I'm guessing we've all seen The Little Mermaid. The main character... THE mermaid who is the focus of the entire movie.... is a very white character with red hair. So, when Disney does a "remake" and selects a black female to play Ariel, the motivation is pretty clear. The issue isn't that a non-white person is cast in a movie. Non-white people are cast in movies... highly successful movies.... all the time. The issue is to (making up a word) wokeify the movie.
 
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