So-called Anti-Woke, Anti-DEI policy catch-all

[ChileG]

Being gay or trans is not about genitals. You should try talking to trans people, or reading some of their stories.

People who work for companies with DEI initiatives probably have.

 

[UNCatTech]

Nothing whatsoever in Trump's policies is designed to limit teaching or promoting (for example) black history. It was ridiculous for the bureaucrats at the Air Force Academy to remove all references to the Tuskegee Airmen at the Academy. It was swiftly corrected as these heroes were a part of AMERICAN history. Yes, I am blaming liberal activists/bureaucrats for this issue because it happens to be true.

Limiting the scope of DEI programs does not equal erasing black history. Why must you assign the worst intent in everything this Administration (or its supporters) does? Do you not acknowledge that DEI programs needed to be curtailed and went too far? I'll admit that perhaps they were initially well intended but, in my opinion, ended up dividing us and wasting vast sums of money.

Wow, talking about a fake narrative to fit your worldview.

This is a bad as Mike, I share my porn history with my son, Johnson saying that all of the people at town halls who are complaining are democrats there to cause issues. Bullshit.

I wonder if you think tariffs are a tax cut also.

 

[ChileG]

Other than your opinion, you have not given one shred of evidence - not one- that Pete Buttigieg was selected for Transportation Secretary because he is gay. You have pointed to a Slate opinion piece as some sort of evidence. That's a Slate opinion piece that does not even once contain the word gay, or imply in any way that he was selected because he is gay. In fact the opinion piece comes to some entirely different conclusions than what you point to from the headline.

"Now, there probably is some crusading reformer inside the Department of Transportation who would have made the ideal choice in the Biden administration. But that’s not what was on the menu, because the less important Cabinet jobs are political positions to reward allies, and no ally needs a job in Washington quite like Pete Buttigieg, who faced a political dead end back home.

Within that framework, I think Buttigieg is an above-average choice. The things that people don’t like about him—the perfect résumé, and the unguarded ambition that’s helped him leap way beyond it—set him up to really make an impact in a field that is a total disaster."

So that article makes the point that he was selected because he was a political ally with unguarded ambition and a perfect resume. Was he the most qualified person with the broadest knowledge of transportation? Certainly not. Was he selected because, as your article states, he was a political ally to Biden and that is how these roles are typically filled? Well just look at your article.

So unless you have actual proof of your claims other that your feelings, you should probably let it go as you just look somewhat foolish and pretty homophobic to go on and on about it.

This is what I have been saying, but you did it better. Which is why I am glad you are here.

 

[UNCatTech]

Other than your opinion, you have not given one shred of evidence - not one- that Pete Buttigieg was selected for Transportation Secretary because he is gay. You have pointed to a Slate opinion piece as some sort of evidence. That's a Slate opinion piece that does not even once contain the word gay, or imply in any way that he was selected because he is gay. In fact the opinion piece comes to some entirely different conclusions than what you point to from the headline.

"Now, there probably is some crusading reformer inside the Department of Transportation who would have made the ideal choice in the Biden administration. But that’s not what was on the menu, because the less important Cabinet jobs are political positions to reward allies, and no ally needs a job in Washington quite like Pete Buttigieg, who faced a political dead end back home.

Within that framework, I think Buttigieg is an above-average choice. The things that people don’t like about him—the perfect résumé, and the unguarded ambition that’s helped him leap way beyond it—set him up to really make an impact in a field that is a total disaster."

So that article makes the point that he was selected because he was a political ally with unguarded ambition and a perfect resume. Was he the most qualified person with the broadest knowledge of transportation? Certainly not. Was he selected because, as your article states, he was a political ally to Biden and that is how these roles are typically filled? Well just look at your article.

So unless you have actual proof of your claims other that your feelings, you should probably let it go as you just look somewhat foolish and pretty homophobic to go on and on about it.

Seriously Pete has a wonderful resume. He's highly qualified.

But you are wasting time reading zen for anything other than opinions.

 

[UNCatTech]

Being gay or trans is not about genitals. You should try talking to trans people, or reading some of their stories.

Zen has some kind of obsession with genitals.

 

[UNCatTech]

You're right. It could just be an incredible coincidence that the Biden admin has the first black female SCOTUS justice in US history (on which he called his shot, setting the stage for the assertions I'm making now), the highest ranking, openly transgender government official in US history and the first openly gay Cabinet secretary in U.S. history.

I mean, he literally checked every typical DEI box there is to check.

Yes, because the meritocracy wasn't working or we would have found candidates who weren't white men and women long ago.

You make a stupid argument, there will be a first for everything, what is sad is how long it took this country to achieve some of these first.

 

[UNCatTech]

@Paine I see I forgot one.

Chantel Wong - Wong is the first out lesbian and the first out LGBTQ person of color to receive the rank of an ambassador.

First Gay
First Lesbian
First Transgender
First Black Female

Incredible coincidence if not intentional

I guess there's a limit, only one first President? Or would you prefer we never have any of these first?

ZEN = the party of old white men.

 

[ZenMode]

Shouldn't have ever removed them. Fucking racist.

It was only removed for a couple days to be modified to remove references specifically talking about DEI:

Air Force reinstates course with Tuskegee Airmen video after outcry​

By Stephen Losey
Monday, Jan 27, 2025
The Air Force is reinstating a basic training class Monday that was suspended last week for revisions, with its materials on World War II-era Black and female pilots intact but diversity, equity and inclusion components removed.

Air Force reinstates course with Tuskegee Airmen video after outcry

The Air Force pulled the course for review last week following the Trump administration's sweeping order barring diversity programs.

www.airforcetimes.com

 

[finesse]

It was only removed for a couple days to be modified to remove references specifically talking about DEI:

Air Force reinstates course with Tuskegee Airmen video after outcry​

By Stephen Losey
Monday, Jan 27, 2025
The Air Force is reinstating a basic training class Monday that was suspended last week for revisions, with its materials on World War II-era Black and female pilots intact but diversity, equity and inclusion components removed.

Air Force reinstates course with Tuskegee Airmen video after outcry

The Air Force pulled the course for review last week following the Trump administration's sweeping order barring diversity programs.

www.airforcetimes.com

Newspeak.

 

[ChileG]

It was only removed for a couple days to be modified to remove references specifically talking about DEI:

Air Force reinstates course with Tuskegee Airmen video after outcry​

By Stephen Losey
Monday, Jan 27, 2025
The Air Force is reinstating a basic training class Monday that was suspended last week for revisions, with its materials on World War II-era Black and female pilots intact but diversity, equity and inclusion components removed.

Air Force reinstates course with Tuskegee Airmen video after outcry

The Air Force pulled the course for review last week following the Trump administration's sweeping order barring diversity programs.

www.airforcetimes.com

So all the republicans mentioned in the article, and all Trump supporters who called the action “malicious compliance” were wrong, then?
Why did they feel the need to lie, I wonder?

 

[Duke Mu]

 

[ZenMode]

So all the republicans mentioned in the article, and all Trump supporters who called the action “malicious compliance” were wrong, then?

Apparently so.

Why did they feel the need to lie, I wonder?

Not sure what the lie was. Seems more like a lack of having all the info... similar to all those who got bent out of shape about the so-called removal of Tuskegee airmen.

 

[superrific]

Being gay or trans isn't only about genitals but it is absolutely about genitals. If you're gay, you want your partner to have the same genitals as you. if you're trans, you believe your body has the wrong genitals.

This is not true. Many trans people never change their genitals, because they don't want to. Their problems are not with their bodies. It's not a genital mismatch. It's an identity mismatch. It's looking at your mom and dad when you're young and deciding that you really want to wear clothes like your mom's and not your dad's. Trans people frequently are trans before they even know what genitals do.

I sometimes wonder if I have some trans tendencies. I've long thought I would be happier as a woman (for one thing, I'm tall, blond and really skinny and while that's not a great thing for a man, it's pretty fucking great for a woman). I don't want to change my gender, but there might exist a universe in which I would. When I was a kid, my favorite superhero was Wonder Woman. I dressed up as Wonder Woman two years in a row for Halloween, when I was 4 and 5.

I know you don't want to hear any of this, because it punctures your comfortable mythmaking that trans people are just weirdos who are all about their genitals. But that's all it is, mythmaking. You are not describing trans people; you are just painting a picture of your own sordid imagination.

 

[UNCatTech]

It was only removed for a couple days to be modified to remove references specifically talking about DEI:

Air Force reinstates course with Tuskegee Airmen video after outcry​

By Stephen Losey
Monday, Jan 27, 2025
The Air Force is reinstating a basic training class Monday that was suspended last week for revisions, with its materials on World War II-era Black and female pilots intact but diversity, equity and inclusion components removed.

Air Force reinstates course with Tuskegee Airmen video after outcry

The Air Force pulled the course for review last week following the Trump administration's sweeping order barring diversity programs.

www.airforcetimes.com

LET ME BE CRYSTAL CLEAR. I DON'T FUCKING CARE IF IT WAS TEN MINUTES, MY ORIGINAL POST IS STILL MY OPINION.

 

[4thgenheel]

gender is a social construct.

 

[SmilingJack]

For the record, I'm not saying that being gay is weird. What's weird is using sexual attraction as a reason to select an underqualified candidate.

I worded my sentence that way to emphasize just how weird and ridiculous It is to have that as a criteria.

Yet you can not provide any proof that was the criteria. You are a certified idiot.

 

[Lando]

The incel need to enforce gender roles just makes me sad.

 

[ZenMode]

This is not true. Many trans people never change their genitals, because they don't want to. Their problems are not with their bodies. It's not a genital mismatch. It's an identity mismatch. It's looking at your mom and dad when you're young and deciding that you really want to wear clothes like your mom's and not your dad's. Trans people frequently are trans before they even know what genitals do.

I sometimes wonder if I have some trans tendencies. I've long thought I would be happier as a woman (for one thing, I'm tall, blond and really skinny and while that's not a great thing for a man, it's pretty fucking great for a woman). I don't want to change my gender, but there might exist a universe in which I would. When I was a kid, my favorite superhero was Wonder Woman. I dressed up as Wonder Woman two years in a row for Halloween, when I was 4 and 5.

I know you don't want to hear any of this, because it punctures your comfortable mythmaking that trans people are just weirdos who are all about their genitals. But that's all it is, mythmaking. You are not describing trans people; you are just painting a picture of your own sordid imagination.

That's fine. I don't know where the dysphoria in gender dysphoria comes from if not from a contrast between what's going on in your head and what's going on with your body, but it's irrelevant to my point. The references to genitals is to show how ridiculous it is to take sexuality and gender dysphoria into consideration for hiring someone.

 

[superrific]

The references to genitals is to show how ridiculous I am.

This is a true statement. Not quite yours, but the translation is pretty good.

 

[roostra]

That's fine. I don't know where the dysphoria in gender dysphoria comes from if not from a contrast between what's going on in your head and what's going on with your body, but it's irrelevant to my point. The references to genitals is to show how ridiculous it is to take homosexuality and gender dysphoria into consideration for hiring someone.

Why are you okay with the clear evidence that prior administrations have hired people because they were straight white Protestant males? They were hired in numbers staggeringly higher than their proportion of the total population. That can't be a coincidence (which seems to be your bright line to decide whether someone has been hired for the wrong reasons).