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I love rap. Have since a kid in the 80s. I might appreciate Lamar more if I could understand what he is saying.
 
Machinehead said:
I love rap. Have since a kid in the 80s. I might appreciate Lamar more if I could understand what he is saying.
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Oh, please. First, I'm instantly skeptical of anyone who refers to "rap" as a genre. Second, it's not hard to understand his lyrics -- no more than any other hip-hop artist. Even I can do it and I don't even try that hard because I find the songs boring.

I'm very far from a Lamar fan. I mean, he's OK, but I do not like the minimalist approach to backing instrumentation (note: I have not listened to all his albums; I've not liked what I've heard and generally that doesn't make me want to dive in further). So I'm no stan. I'm just skeptical about your claim because it seems like bullshit to me.
 
superrific said:
Oh, please. First, I'm instantly skeptical of anyone who refers to "rap" as a genre. Second, it's not hard to understand his lyrics -- no more than any other hip-hop artist. Even I can do it and I don't even try that hard because I find the songs boring.

I'm very far from a Lamar fan. I mean, he's OK, but I do not like the minimalist approach to backing instrumentation (note: I have not listened to all his albums; I've not liked what I've heard and generally that doesn't make me want to dive in further). So I'm no stan. I'm just skeptical about your claim because it seems like bullshit to me.
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They not like us, they not like us. Mumble, mumble, mumble, mumble...a minor!
 
Aren't all hip-hop feuds basically just pro wrestling? They are manufactured in order to gain attention and thus sell records.

I don't know any Drake songs, or if I do, I don't know that they are Drake. I very much doubt I would like it.

What I've heard from Kendrick Lamar lacks propulsion. There's nothing driving the song forward. Maybe that's just old man me talking; the hip-hop I listen to, like Public Enemy and Eric B and Rakim, is not where hip-hop is today. And I've never been a huge fan of the genre. Still, Not Like Us sounds like it could be recorded on Casio. There's just no sophistication there. Whatever you want to say about Eminem, there's complexity in the production. The instrumentation is not static. The beats are more than a snare on the 4.
 
superrific said:
Aren't all hip-hop feuds basically just pro wrestling? They are manufactured in order to gain attention and thus sell records.

I don't know any Drake songs, or if I do, I don't know that they are Drake. I very much doubt I would like it.

What I've heard from Kendrick Lamar lacks propulsion. There's nothing driving the song forward. Maybe that's just old man me talking; the hip-hop I listen to, like Public Enemy and Eric B and Rakim, is not where hip-hop is today. And I've never been a huge fan of the genre. Still, Not Like Us sounds like it could be recorded on Casio. There's just no sophistication there. Whatever you want to say about Eminem, there's complexity in the production. The instrumentation is not static. The beats are more than a snare on the 4.
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Remember the Roxanne Wars? Now those were some rap battles. How about Kane and Kool Moe Dee?
 
Machinehead said:
They not like us, they not like us. Mumble, mumble, mumble, mumble...a minor!
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You're just making yourself look foolish. I can understand 90-95% of the words. What I can't do is replicate them. That's fine. They come at you fast, and you can make sense of them, but it's hard to register them in real time. That's nothing new. Can you understand and replicate all the lyrics to this?



And then sometimes you can understand the lyrics but don't know what they mean. Here's an example from De La Soul's I Am I Be, one of my favorite hip-hop tracks.

The Plug Two brand with the flavor
In the flute watch the sniffin'
So a sack of shows in demand
I read the diction from the second page
I got the one-two gauge
Baritone to the izm fan
Trees fall so I can play ground with my ink
So let me need ya to my Ms go
I push the infinite and carry it
My carrier's the three over one
So my pluggins already know
Lick shots with my woo
Catch the boo
From a ghost in the heckling crowd
If I give a foot
Jack Ville caught a spill
When a still came from my mouth
I put her head down south
I don't check for the noose and the neck
So I never tell my ems
That finesse is knocking at my door
I choose to run from the rays of the burning sun
And dodge a needle washing up upon a sandy shore
I bring the element H with the 2
So ya owe me what's coming when I'm raining on your new parade
It's just mind over matter
And what matters is
That the mind isn't guided by the punished shade
I keep the walking on the right side
But I won't judge the next who handles walking on the wrong
Cuz that's how he wants to be
No difference, see
I wanna be like the name of this song I Am

I have no idea what most of that means. Neither does anyone else, judging by the annotations on genius.com. So what? It's a dope track and it gets me moving even though I've heard it hundreds of times.
 
superrific said:
You're just making yourself look foolish. I can understand 90-95% of the words. What I can't do is replicate them. That's fine. They come at you fast, and you can make sense of them, but it's hard to register them in real time. That's nothing new. Can you understand and replicate all the lyrics to this?



And then sometimes you can understand the lyrics but don't know what they mean. Here's an example from De La Soul's I Am I Be, one of my favorite hip-hop tracks.

The Plug Two brand with the flavor
In the flute watch the sniffin'
So a sack of shows in demand
I read the diction from the second page
I got the one-two gauge
Baritone to the izm fan
Trees fall so I can play ground with my ink
So let me need ya to my Ms go
I push the infinite and carry it
My carrier's the three over one
So my pluggins already know
Lick shots with my woo
Catch the boo
From a ghost in the heckling crowd
If I give a foot
Jack Ville caught a spill
When a still came from my mouth
I put her head down south
I don't check for the noose and the neck
So I never tell my ems
That finesse is knocking at my door
I choose to run from the rays of the burning sun
And dodge a needle washing up upon a sandy shore
I bring the element H with the 2
So ya owe me what's coming when I'm raining on your new parade
It's just mind over matter
And what matters is
That the mind isn't guided by the punished shade
I keep the walking on the right side
But I won't judge the next who handles walking on the wrong
Cuz that's how he wants to be
No difference, see
I wanna be like the name of this song I Am

I have no idea what most of that means. Neither does anyone else, judging by the annotations on genius.com. So what? It's a dope track and it gets me moving even though I've heard it hundreds of times.
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It has a nice beat and it's easy to dance to.
 
ZZLPHeels said:
What boy's sport are they going to cut in order to do that? According to that commercial, girls are better at football than boys, so why not just let every girl play varsity tackle against the boys?
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JFC Bo, just stop.
 
ZZLPHeels said:
I'm sorry, I didn't realize that all Americans were bound by law to enjoy last night's performance. Why are you so triggered that a lot of people didn't like Lamar's "show"?
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I haven't enjoyed a Super Bowl halftime show since Prince, but I didn't go on message boards and cry like a little girl about it. Now I understand you crying after sex in that trailer. You are fragile, dude.
 
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