Tariffs Catch-All

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The Chinese can go pound sand. F them.

The issue is everyone else is laughing at us and will have no confidence in the US and be forced to join forces with China.
China and EU will be each other's market. And we're screwed. Ergo, laughing at us. They've been doing transactional for 1000s of years.
 
Of course not. The joke is the absurdity. It's a message board variant of a movie scene where a person uses a phrase completely out of context to absurd and hopefully hilarious results. I guess I bombed on the hilarity.
You did. Lol. We're good, Super. I appreciate you.

By the way, regarding convo we had way back concerning Coens, I finally watched Blood Simple for first time. Pretty good. I intend on Miller's Crossing and The Hudsucker Proxy next. I had no real familiarity with their early films other than Raising Arizona, which inspired my letter I wrote to my wife on the day we finally decided it was over.
 


“…Lutnick said tariffs on semiconductors will be decided through an industry-specific tariff model and imposed via Section 232, which governs national security-related tariffs and requires a lengthy process for study and comment.

The Trump administration has previously cited 232 as a potential avenue for semiconductor tariffs. But the latest messaging twist could cause further whiplash for the tech sector, which had breathed a sigh of relief after the tech exemption was announced, hoping that semiconductors might remain somewhat unscathed from Trump’s trade war.

… The Trump administration will establish an industry-specific tariff model for goods such as semiconductors and pharmaceuticals to encourage companies to re-shore manufacturing for these products in the United States, he explained. …

National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett, speaking on CNN’s “State of the Union,”said the tariff investigation into semiconductors has to do with broader concerns about whether U.S. dependence on Chinese-made imports could become a problem in a war between the two nations.

… But compared to typical Section 232 investigations into critical materials, the process on China is “very, very nascent, if at all,” Hassett said.
 

Manufacturing: someone's American Dream, just not mine

In fairness, the first question asked if American would be better off if MORE people worked in manufacturing.' Then 25% said they would be better off if they worked in a factory (vs. the 2% those who currently do). And well, 25% is a lot more than 2%.
 
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Yet another of the "good for thee, but not for me" line of thinking that is so prevalent among Trumpers. They're all for gutting government services as long as it doesn't affect them. They're all for a trade war as long as it won't affect them. They hate seeing minorities or people they don't like getting welfare or government "handouts", but as farmers who voted for Trump have already proven in his last term, they're perfectly happy to accept such goodies themselves.
 
Yet another of the "good for thee, but not for me" line of thinking that is so prevalent among Trumpers. They're all for gutting government services as long as it doesn't affect them. They're all for a trade war as long as it won't affect them. They hate seeing minorities or people they don't like getting welfare or government "handouts", but as farmers who voted for Trump have already proven in his last term, they're perfectly happy to accept such goodies themselves.
I don't think this data implies what you think it does. I would answer 'agree' to the first statement, and 'disagree' to the second statement. Only 2% of Americans work in manufacturing now, but 25% of Americans would prefer to work in manufacturing. That's a big difference. These 25% might now work in lower paying service-sector jobs. As for me, I like my current job so don't want to work at a factory, but 25% Americans who aren't currently working in manufacturing would like to work in manufacturing.
 
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I don't think this data implies what you think it does. I would answer 'agree' to the first statement, and 'disagree' to the second statement. Only 2% of Americans work in manufacturing now, but 25% of Americans would prefer to work in manufacturing. That's a big difference. These 25% might now work in lower paying service-sector jobs. As for me, I like my current job so don't want to work at a factory, but 25% Americans who aren't currently working in manufacturing would like to work in manufacturing.
Agreed. The two aren’t contradictory at all despite appearing so on first glance.
 
The tech companies can pay for date centers. If you wanjt more auto plants, semi fabs, and ship-builiding, it will have to be funded through low-interest loans, govt contracts (like CHIPS or Infl Red Act) or like the Pentagon does with defense companies. Will hadve tdio be subsidized one way or other: start by taking some 9of the 4.5 trillion tax cut for w4ealthy and coros. Trump said companies would user his 2017 tax bill to build plants: they did not, used it for share buybacks ro dividends.
There is also the issue of unskilled workers. See this 2023 article about Taiwan Semi delaying an Arizona plant in 2023
 
The tech companies can pay for date centers. If you wanjt more auto plants, semi fabs, and ship-builiding, it will have to be funded through low-interest loans, govt contracts (like CHIPS or Infl Red Act) or like the Pentagon does with defense companies. Will hadve tdio be subsidized one way or other: start by taking some 9of the 4.5 trillion tax cut for w4ealthy and coros. Trump said companies would user his 2017 tax bill to build plants: they did not, used it for share buybacks ro dividends.
There is also the issue of unskilled workers. See this 2023 article about Taiwan Semi delaying an Arizona plant in 2023
I think I know what you’re trying to say
 
I don't think this data implies what you think it does. I would answer 'agree' to the first statement, and 'disagree' to the second statement. Only 2% of Americans work in manufacturing now, but 25% of Americans would prefer to work in manufacturing. That's a big difference. These 25% might now work in lower paying service-sector jobs. As for me, I like my current job so don't want to work at a factory, but 25% Americans who aren't currently working in manufacturing would like to work in manufacturing.
Maybe, but I think my larger point still stands. It seems clear based on what we've seen since Trump took office that a great many Trumpers thought that only others would be hurt by Trump 2.0, not people like themselves. Also, I think the percentage of Americans who are in manufacturing is higher, and still around 10% or so.
 
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