The Music Thread

Centerpiece said:
A couple of really interesting stories behind both those songs… Take 5 and Ohio. Of course the inspiration behind Neil’s Ohio was obvious, but it was interesting to hear Graham Nash recount the story of how quickly the song was written, recorded and released in a manner which knocked their other hit off the charts (Teach Your Children). Teach was just then making its way up the charts as a top hit when Neil wrote this song in less than an hour. Crosby insisted the group record OHIO ASAP. The rest is history.
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Reminds of Eve of Destruction, which IIRC was released on the radio hours after it was recorded. There were even mistakes that McGuire wanted to correct but the song was already out. I've long listened for the mistake and I can't detect it, which is often the case with musicians' mistakes, right? As they say to high schoolers, "nobody noticed that mistake but you."
 
superrific said:
Reminds of Eve of Destruction, which IIRC was released on the radio hours after it was recorded. There were even mistakes that McGuire wanted to correct but the song was already out. I've long listened for the mistake and I can't detect it, which is often the case with musicians' mistakes, right? As they say to high schoolers, "nobody noticed that mistake but you."
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sad to hear that the theme of this protest song is apropos 60 years later

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Anybody watch any of the Rick Beato YouTubes? He's got tons out there and been doing it for about 10 years. Killer interviews with loads of all time greats. The last couple of years he's been hammering on the "death of RocknRoll" or the "end" of the music industry as we know/knew it. Loads of stuff about autotune, B.S. recording deals, Napster, spotify, no good bands anymore, and now recently: AI, etc. etc.
And he's not just some blowhard with a podcast with no gravitas. He's a learned musician, player, writer, producer, sound engineer and 100's of albums to his credit. At 63 year's old he's been around the block. I like his delivery and style.
And I think he's spot on with his takes.
Thoughts?
 
Centerpiece said:
Anybody watch any of the Rick Beato YouTubes? He's got tons out there and been doing it for about 10 years. Killer interviews with loads of all time greats. The last couple of years he's been hammering on the "death of RocknRoll" or the "end" of the music industry as we know/knew it. Loads of stuff about autotune, B.S. recording deals, Napster, spotify, no good bands anymore, and now recently: AI, etc. etc.
And he's not just some blowhard with a podcast with no gravitas. He's a learned musician, player, writer, producer, sound engineer and 100's of albums to his credit. At 63 year's old he's been around the block. I like his delivery and style.
And I think he's spot on with his takes.
Thoughts?
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Old man yelling at the clouds selling his e-books.

Some of the interviews are solid...but there are better "music theory / state of music" content providers out there.
 
p5mmr9 said:
Old man yelling at the clouds selling his e-books.

Some of the interviews are solid...but there are better "music theory / state of music" content providers out there.
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Cool response. Who are the better “music theory/state of music” content providers? (I’m a music theory guy myself) I’ll check them out.
 
My "old man yelling at clouds" comment is more about his distaste for modern music and the idea that the industry is dead - it's not and modern music doesn't suck - it's just different, but he has trouble with change as is common as eras change for those of past eras. I posted the Hammett interview because I think it's insightful and interesting - but he has others. I just posted one. I'm not suggesting his content is terrible. He is ubiquitous in this youtube subgenre - and he is for a reason. He's very good - I just find his comments about the music industry in general to be a bit boring and eye rolling. And his music theory insights are shallow. His best content to me are his interviews. He's a very good interviewer mostly because he's the real deal and musicians respect him and Beato can get his interview subjects to open up pretty easily.
 
Music theory recommendations? I think David Bennet is the best. 12tone is very good. These are a bit more niche and content focused than Beato though - so it isn't really apples to apples:
www.youtube.com

David Bennett

I'm a pianist, songwriter and music lover creating educational videos about all things interesting in music and music theory.
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com
www.youtube.com

12tone

something something music theory. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/12tonevideos Mailing list: http://eepurl.com/bD4LeT Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/12tonevideos Twitter: https://twitter.com/12tonevideos Email: 12tone@nebula.tv
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com

There are others of course...but these aren't really "state of industry" types.
 
p5mmr9 said:
Music theory recommendations? I think David Bennet is the best. 12tone is very good. These are a bit more niche and content focused than Beato though - so it isn't really apples to apples:
www.youtube.com

David Bennett

I'm a pianist, songwriter and music lover creating educational videos about all things interesting in music and music theory.
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com
www.youtube.com

12tone

something something music theory. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/12tonevideos Mailing list: http://eepurl.com/bD4LeT Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/12tonevideos Twitter: https://twitter.com/12tonevideos Email: 12tone@nebula.tv
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com

There are others of course...but these aren't really "state of industry" types.
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Ok. But I’m not impressed in terms of their “music theory”. First, like Beato, these two are doing the exact same thing in regards to selling their wares. Whataboutism on my response no doubt.

But in all seriousness, they may do a decent job of explaining a I, VI, II, V to the uninitiated, but come on. They need to do a deeper dive than that for me. Beato does that.
 
p5mmr9 said:
Music theory recommendations? I think David Bennet is the best. 12tone is very good. These are a bit more niche and content focused than Beato though - so it isn't really apples to apples:
www.youtube.com

David Bennett

I'm a pianist, songwriter and music lover creating educational videos about all things interesting in music and music theory.
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com
www.youtube.com

12tone

something something music theory. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/12tonevideos Mailing list: http://eepurl.com/bD4LeT Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/12tonevideos Twitter: https://twitter.com/12tonevideos Email: 12tone@nebula.tv
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com

There are others of course...but these aren't really "state of industry" types.
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Here’s Jason DeCristofaro, Teacher in N.C. with whom I’ve gigged a couple of times. Follow him if you want some music/chord theory.
 
It's made for amateurs with limited experience, exposure, or knowledgebase. I just think they make better content. You asked what people think about Rick Beato. I'm just giving you my opinion.

As for actual music theory - I had enough music theory study at UNC. I watch 12tone videos because they are entertaining more than illuminating...same for David Bennett.
 
Beato’s fine and obviously knows a lot but is kind of overly serious for me. Yes, I get it, Led Zeppelin and the Beatles are the best to ever do it. Thanks for making another video about how great their chord progressions are.

It’s a different lane, but Pat Finnerty has a series of videos called What Makes This Song Stink that I enjoy. I think most of you would probably enjoy his brand of humor too, super irreverent.



This is a shorter one that kills me. Legitimately one of the funnier things I’ve seen on the internet:

 
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p5mmr9 said:
My "old man yelling at clouds" comment is more about his distaste for modern music and the idea that the industry is dead - it's not and modern music doesn't suck - it's just different, but he has trouble with change as is common as eras change for those of past eras. I posted the Hammett interview because I think it's insightful and interesting - but he has others. I just posted one. I'm not suggesting his content is terrible. He is ubiquitous in this youtube subgenre - and he is for a reason. He's very good - I just find his comments about the music industry in general to be a bit boring and eye rolling. And his music theory insights are shallow. His best content to me are his interviews. He's a very good interviewer mostly because he's the real deal and musicians respect him and Beato can get his interview subjects to open up pretty easily.
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OK. Noted. I agree his interview vids are the best. Entertaining and on point, and the musicians respect him. I respect him too, but not only on his interviews, but his take on theory and the industry itself BASED ON HOW IT USED TO BE, which I noted. My day goes a bit further back than Beato's. I've got him by 3 years.

I'll have to say that my music has taken advantage of the new dynamic in the industry. No way do I, back in the day, get a check from ASCAP to the tune of $12k for one track bought in Japan for a radio spot - which I did in 2018. Back then I would be just another guitar player.

I've been in studios since the early 1980's. I recorded in Mitch Easter's Drive In Studio in 1983. Not long after R.E.M. did a recording there. I've seen the industry first hand. I respect Beato more than others because I speak his language. That's my bias.
 
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finesse said:
Speaking of blue eyed soul legends, this is an interesting collaboration from a dozen or so years ago.


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heelinhell said:
Oh man !

just ordered that cd . Thank you !

I am a Rascals fan and old enough to know them as the Young Rascals:)

and Steve Cropper was the go to guitarist for Stax artists but probably best known as the guitarist for the Blues Brothers:cool:
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heelinhell said:
Oh man !

just ordered that cd . Thank you !

I am a Rascals fan and old enough to know them as the Young Rascals:)

and Steve Cropper was the go to guitarist for Stax artists but probably best known as the guitarist for the Blues Brothers:cool:
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I can't thank you enough, my friend !

This CD is soulfully fantastic...not a single "bad" song🤩
 
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