Thread In Which We Discuss Trump Admin Policy & Give Trump Props

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Ramrouser said:
Federal spending was 5.31T in 2019 (prior to COVID) and last year it was 6.16T. We can easily save 1T if we just go back to pre COVID 2019 spending levels. The birthrates are down so the population isn't really any greater than 2019 (other than illegal immigration). If Elon is correct, we've already knocked off 1B just in a couple of weeks simply by cancelling DEI contracts. This should be a piece of cake.
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Hmmm. What could have happened between 2019 and 2024 to raise costs?
 
Ramrouser said:
Federal spending was 5.31T in 2019 (prior to COVID) and last year it was 6.16T. We can easily save 1T if we just go back to pre COVID 2019 spending levels. The birthrates are down so the population isn't really any greater than 2019 (other than illegal immigration). If Elon is correct, we've already knocked off 1B just in a couple of weeks simply by cancelling DEI contracts. This should be a piece of cake.
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The population in 2019 was 328 mill and change Today it is 345 and change. So your populaltion discussion is wrong Defense spending alone goes up about 5% a year-and that is a big chunk . Gonna cut defense Nope
Inflation since 2019 is a factor-so shit costs more
Find me a trilliion with that in mind Elons Billion is literally budget dust
 
I agree with the TikTok ban in spirit, but it's not going to have a practical effect unless you regulate all algorithm-based social media feeds to be more transparent.

I support tariffs for key industries in infrastructure and security if they're broadly applied to most countries. So, while I agree with Trump's policy, I have serious disagreements with its planned implementation.

Civil service reform is long overdue. It should be easier for the federal government to reduce and reposition its work force if it so chooses. And it's fine to make people come into the office. The implementation of the last two weeks, however, is short-sighted and likely illegal. We're going to lose the top performers - those who have options - and keep the others.
 
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Ramrouser said:
What? Fannie May, the Mortgage Bankers Association and Wells predict mortgage interest rates to decline in 2025 from 7% down to 6.1% - 6.3% by the end of the year.

Of course, the Dems have no room to talk since, under their inflationary spending spree, interest rates went from 3% to 7% during their four years in office.
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Mortgage rates have increased by 100 bps in the last four months, so they aren't exactly going the right way. And that's all Trump.

I'd bet anything that those predictions are either a) stale; or b) do not attempt to account for policy changes.
 
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I support tariffs for key industries in infrastructure and security if their broadly applied to most countries. So, while I agree with Trump's policy, I have serious disagreements with its planned implementation.
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I get what you're saying, but I don't think you agree with Trump's actual policy. He's just doing across the board tariffing. And he seems to be doing so because he thinks it will make other countries show him tribute.
 
Ramrouser said:
What? Fannie May, the Mortgage Bankers Association and Wells predict mortgage interest rates to decline in 2025 from 7% down to 6.1% - 6.3% by the end of the year.

Of course, the Dems have no room to talk since, under their inflationary spending spree, interest rates went from 3% to 7% during their four years in office.
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Cool. What did interest rates do the day after Trump was elected up until now? Because that is 100% on him.
 
superrific said:
I get what you're saying, but I don't think you agree with Trump's actual policy. He's just doing across the board tariffing. And he seems to be doing so because he thinks it will make other countries show him tribute.
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Fair point.
 
Ramrouser said:
What? Fannie May, the Mortgage Bankers Association and Wells predict mortgage interest rates to decline in 2025 from 7% down to 6.1% - 6.3% by the end of the year.

Of course, the Dems have no room to talk since, under their inflationary spending spree, interest rates went from 3% to 7% during their four years in office.
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Wow, that statement shows a real disconnect in why interest rates are where they are.
 
Ramrouser said:
What? Fannie May, the Mortgage Bankers Association and Wells predict mortgage interest rates to decline in 2025 from 7% down to 6.1% - 6.3% by the end of the year.

Of course, the Dems have no room to talk since, under their inflationary spending spree, interest rates went from 3% to 7% during their four years in office.
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I'm trying to wrap my head around someone who references mortgage interest rates when we are talking about interest rates on the national debt. The two may correlate in broad terms but, um, wow...

Maybe I should start start collecting the teaser credit card offers I get when I fly and forward them to the US Treasury...
 
Lord have mercy. Stock market is tanking today, the Trump economy is unraveling, egg prices are breaking record highs, gas prices going up, inflation increasing, mortgage rates unaffordable, the Trump southern border is completely unsecured, and we are about to get slapped with massive retaliatory tariff by our closest trading partners. Not to mention, Trump is literally killing people in the skies over America and opening up our prisons and letting violent offenders out on the streets with full pardons.

Can’t imagine a much more disastrous start to a presidency. Hopefully things get better and we start winning again soon.
 


Oh shit, I forgot. Trump is making MeeMaw’s and PawPaw’s prescription medication‘s completely unfordable.
 
roostra said:
The guy pleaded guilty to misdemeanor disorderly conduct. He wasn't convicted - he admitted guilt. And the sentence was probation. I can't see getting into a kerfluffle about this outcome.
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This originally started as a discussion about Trump's pardons of the people involved in January 6th. I'm fine with the non-violent protesters being pardoned because I think they were wrongly charged in the first place. Ray Epps never engaged with a police officer, other than as a peacekeeper, never crossed a police barrier and never entered the Capitol. There was no reason to charge him with anything.
 
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