Funny how no money has been appropriated for this.Been widely reported across a diverse group of media. 8 months of severance and benefits. Damn trump is being overly generous.
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Funny how no money has been appropriated for this.Been widely reported across a diverse group of media. 8 months of severance and benefits. Damn trump is being overly generous.
Lol...I'm miserable? You're the one with a hardon about DEI that has had ZERO impact on those working in ATC. They have THOUSANDS of open positions that they cannot fill. How, pray tell, can one come to the conclusion that they have passed over more qualified applicants? They aren't passing over anyone. Raising the qualifications without tripling the pay will make the situation far worse, not better.Why are you such a miserable human?
The point is that qualifications in one of the most important jobs in America, where mistakes kill hundreds were lowered for the sake of DEI so that people with mental disabilities, hearing disabilities, vision disabilities, and others could be “included”. Trump should have fixed that the first time but didn’t. Thankfully he has now. MASSIVE WIN FOR AMERICA.
So, it should be easy to prove your point here. Let's see the data showing an increase in crashes and other related incidents since they started the DEI program. If they were truly hiring unqualified people we should be able to see the increase in issues related to the job performance.Why are you such a miserable human?
The point is that qualifications in one of the most important jobs in America, where mistakes kill hundreds were lowered for the sake of DEI so that people with mental disabilities, hearing disabilities, vision disabilities, and others could be “included”. Trump should have fixed that the first time but didn’t. Thankfully he has now. MASSIVE WIN FOR AMERICA.
Cite for your first paragraph? There is nothing in the article you linked that mentioned anything about quotas. Secondly, skills-based characteristics make a lot more sense than experience-based characteristics. I firmly believe that playing a collegiate sport probably has more relevance to dealing with the pressure and stress of the job, than some forms of military experience. Sure, if you were in firefights in Fallujah, that probably preps you pretty well for the stress of being an ATC. but if you were in the motor pool or a cook? Not as much. And yeah, I certainly want to see a cite for your assertion that someone who was an ATC in the military gets less points than someone who played college sports. That would hit the nail on the head as far as experiential biographical recruiting works.But that wasn’t their goal and they were partially quota driven. Applicants’ backgrounds were assigned point values. Higher points were awarded for some arbitrary things like playing a collegiate sport than actual military experience as an ATC. It wasn’t just about casting a wider net. In some cases the most qualified were white males but they wanted to get away from them.
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Fact-checking Trump’s claims about DEI, Biden and the DC plane crash
Fact check: Trump blames Washington plane crash on DEI. Why – and is what he said true?www.thetimes.com
“The plan, which was last updated in March 2022, added: “Targeted disabilities are those disabilities that the federal government, as a matter of policy, has identified for special emphasis in recruitment and hiring. They include hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability and dwarfism.”
So, is my gay daughter a winner now that they are going after same sex marriage?Winners. And you get to win even though you didn’t vote for him. Maybe he will make it up on Mt Rushmore.
Need to look at near miss trendsWhen was the last time there was a commercial airline crash that could be blamed on air traffic controller error? i'd say those guys have a pretty good record. Stellar, in fact. Not sure where you're getting woefully short from, but based on the results, i.e., no midair collisions or other mishaps attributable to the controllers, there's no question that they've been qualified...
Every aviation accident is the result of a chain of events. Break the chain anywhere and the accident doesn’t happen. The pilots were at the end of the chain. The chain could start as early as the helicopter mechanic’s breakfast the day before, or even years of legislators lobbying for flights into the congested airspace.Why are we focusing on ATC? The pilots caused the collision.
Is this just another example of "Something went wrong. It must be [insert group that scares me] people?"
Because let's not act like maga doesn't use "DEI!!!!! DEI!!!!!!" as a coward's euphemism for the slurs they really want to say.
No.Need to look at near miss trends
Every aviation accident is the result of a chain of events. Break the chain anywhere and the accident doesn’t happen. The pilots were at the end of the chain. The chain could start as early as the helicopter mechanic’s breakfast the day before, or even years of legislators lobbying for flights into the congested airspace.
Do tellNo.
Sometimes an aviation accident or collision is the result of one error.
Agreed. CBS should have said "most" not "every." The accident investigations typically have a primary cause and many secondary causes. But some crashes have just a single issue.No.
Sometimes an aviation accident or collision is the result of one error.
Where did the one that landed in the Hudson end up on the spectrum?Agreed. CBS should have said "most" not "every." The accident investigations typically have a primary cause and many secondary causes. But some crashes have just a single issue.
If that is the case, why does MAGA stand for **quite literally the exact opposite of everything for which classical conservatism stands**?True conservatives migrated to MAGA.
Quite a lot of issues were raised actuallyWhere did the one that landed in the Hudson end up on the spectrum?
It seems like birds flying into the engines in pretty singular, right? Maybe?
I’m not engaging in your BS.Do tell
Ok,yes. 9/11 crashes had a single issue.Agreed. CBS should have said "most" not "every." The accident investigations typically have a primary cause and many secondary causes. But some crashes have just a single issue.
So, I did temper that and didn't make an absolute declaration. Basically, because I didn't know.Quite a lot of issues were raised actually
Can't speak for Zoo, but I am not. Have done some reading on plane crashes, though. Malcom Gladwell discussed the Korean Air crash and the impact of cultural values on that crash in Outliers, which started me thinking about why plane crashes happen.Ok,yes. 9/11 crashes had a single issue.
Are you and Zoo aviation professionals?
Results matter. Concepts of a plan don’t count.How about the macro level concept of creating DOGE? That’s a big win.
Talk about lack of comprehension or bad faith or, in your case, both. How could any competent good faith reader think that what I was implying is that we don't need qualified and competent ATC? My entire point was that, based on the actual record of hundreds of thousands of accident free flights over many decades, the proof is in that we do indeed have competent and qualified ATC and have for many years.To imply we don’t need better qualified and competent ATC is wrong. As someone else said today, when you or a loved one is flying into an airport or just on a plane, what’s more important to you, the color of their skin and what gender they are or how much experience they have and how competent they are. Are you really saying with something as critical as ATC that it’s ok to not seek to have the best?